J. Gordon Melton’s Open Letter Concerning “The God-men” — Index

After the conclusion of The God-Men case (Lee v. Duddy) in 1985, one of the expert witnesses who had testified at that trial, Dr. J. Gordon Melton, the Director of the Institute for the Study of American Religion and editor of the definitive work The Encyclopedia of American Religions,1 wrote and published An Open Letter Concerning the Local Church, Witness Lee and The God-Men Controversy. Dr. Melton’s review of the controversy generated by The God-Men addresses the following areas:

  • The authority of the Bible
  • Morality
  • Rationality and use of the mind

The Open Letter expresses Dr. Melton’s concern that The God-Men had seriously misrepresented the teaching of Witness Lee and the local churches. Dr. Melton summarized his study and findings by saying:

Part of my study of the Local Church involved the reading of most of the published writings of Witness Lee and the lengthy depositions of Neil T. Duddy and Brooks Alexander (of SCP). The experience proved among the more painful of my Christian life. As I began to check the quotes of Witness Lee used in Duddy’s book, I found that The God-Men had consistently taken sentences from Lee’s writings and, by placing them in a foreign context, made them to say just the opposite of what Lee intended. This was done while ignoring the plain teachings and affirmations concerning the great truths of the Christian faith found throughout Lee’s writings.

Conclusions and Recommendations

As a result of Dr. Melton’s review, he offered the following conclusions and recommendations:

…I can but conclude that we in the evangelical Christian community have done the Local Church a great wrong and should set about immediately to try and undo as much of the damage as we can. We should begin with our public renunciation of The God-Men and our withdrawal from use of all the articles and pamphlets which we have written based upon it.

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In light of the manner in which this book treated Lee, I can only suggest that The God-Men, and the other attacks upon the Local Church derived from it, be discarded…

We believe that any fair-minded person who reads Dr. Melton’s critique will agree with his conclusion, so with his permission, we reproduce the entire text of his Open Letter here.

Notes:

1 Dr. Melton is currently Distinguished Professor of American Religious History at the Institute for Studies of Religion at Baylor University.

“The God-Men” by Neil T. Duddy and SCP—Judge’s Decision—Index

Index to Material Related to the Statement of Decision of the Superior Court of the State of California in and for the County of Alameda

The Statement of Decision of Judge Leon Seyranian of the Superior Court of the State of California concluded the libel litigation concerning The God-Men by Neil Duddy and the SCP (known as Witness Lee et al v. Neil Duddy et al). This decision addressed both the German edition of The God-Men (Die Sonderlehre des Witness Lee) and the manuscript on which it was based (from which the English edition of The God-Men was developed). All three defendants failed to appear in court, including Neil Duddy, the Spiritual Counterfeits Project (which filed for Chapter 11 protection on the morning the trial was to start), and Schwengeler-Verlag, the publisher of the German edition.

The judge documented his decision from the deposition testimony of the defendants introduced into evidence at the trial, supplemented by testimony by a group of expert witnesses in various fields of psychology, sociology, and religion. Based on that evidence, Judge Seyranian found The God-Men to be “in all major respects false, defamatory and unprivileged, and, therefore, libelous.”

The following documents are drawn from Judge Seyranian’s Statement of Decision:

Highlights of Court Decision on “The God-Men” by Neil T. Duddy & SCP

From the Statement of Decision of the Superior Court of the State of California in and for the County of Alameda

  1. Uncontested Trial

    Although the trail was uncontested because the defendants chose not to participate, the legal record contained thousands of pages of sworn deposition testimony of the defendants.

    This matter came on regularly for trial and was heard as an uncontested matter as to the defendant Neil T. Duddy, because of his failure to appear, and was heard as a default matter as to the defendant Schwengeler-Verlag for its failure to file a responsive pleading to the plaintiffs’ First Amended and First Supplemental Complaint. (p. 1:17-22)

  2. Quality Evidence Presented by Local Churches

    The local churches (plaintiffs) presented competent and reliable evidence that was substantiated by independent evidence from qualified experts witnesses. The Court had the complete opportunity to cross-examine the witnesses.

    Although the trial was uncontested, the Court feels that the plaintiffs have presented competent and reliable evidence, and the Court was very impressed with the stature and quality of the witnesses presented. Moreover, the Court was provided with a complete opportunity to question and cross examine the witnesses in order to ascertain the truth as the Court should do in a case involving First Amendment rights, regardless of whether the defendants appear or not. There was nothing that the Court wanted to see or to ask that was not provided. Furthermore, the evidence on behalf of the plaintiffs was substantiated by independent evidence from qualified expert witnesses. (pp. 1:22—2:7)

  3. The God-Men Found Libelous

    Accordingly, the Court finds that the manuscript by Neil. T. Duddy entitled The God-Men (Exhibit 1) disseminated (published) in the United States, the book Die Sonderlehre des Witness Lee Und Seiner Ortsgemeinde published by Schwengeler- Verlag (Exhibit 3) disseminated (published) in Europe, and the book The God-Men, An Inquiry Into Witness Lee and the Local Church by Neil T. Duddy and the SCP published by Inter-Varsity Press (Exhibit 5) disseminated (published) in the United States and England, are in all major respects false, defamatory and unprivileged, and, therefore, libelous. (California Civil Code §45) (p. 2:7-17)

  4. Fourteen Accusations Found “False and Defamatory”
    1. Witness Lee is a cult leader and the local churches are a cult.
    2. The local churches engage in deceptive recruiting practices.
    3. Witness Lee controls the local churches.
    4. The local churches engage in brainwashing.
    5. The local church leaders control members’ lives.
    6. Witness Lee and the local church leaders isolate members from society.
    7. The local church elders have created a power structure.
    8. Witness Lee and the local churches encourage immorality.
    9. Local church members are “moral dwarfs.”
    10. The local churches publicly humiliate members.
    11. The local churches lack forthrightness in self-representation.
    12. The local churches use fear tactics in order to keep members.
    13. The local churches persecute people who leave.
    14. Witness Lee and the local churches are guilty of financial mismanagement.

  5. The above false statements were intended

    All of the defendants intended to convey to the readers all of the false statements set forth above or recklessly disregarded the false and defamatory meanings that would be conveyed to the readers. (p. 24:7-10)

  6. The above false statements were defamatory

    All of the false statements set forth above were defamatory in that the same convey to the readers that the plaintiffs Witness Lee and William Freeman are leaders of a “cult,” and the Church in Anaheim is such a “cult”. (p. 24:7-10)

  7. Compensatory Damages Awarded
  8.   Witness Lee $5,000,000.00
      Church in Anaheim 3,000,000.00
      William Freeman 500,000.00
      Total $8,500,000.00

  9. “Actual Malice”

    The plaintiffs indicated at the outset of this trial and hearing that they intended to establish “actual malice” and the Court is satisfied that they have done so. The evidence indicated that in almost all instances where the defendants purported to quote from Witness Lee’s statements they did in fact distort and take out of context such statements by Witness Lee in order to arrive at a predetermined result or conclusion. (p. 28:1-7)

  10. Defendants’ Intent to Destroy

    The defendants intended to destroy the ministries of Witness Lee, William Freeman, and the local churches because they had lost members to the local churches and perceived themselves to be in competition with the local churches on college campuses in preaching the gospel. The author told the publisher that The God-Men “may contribute to the Local Churches’ demise.”

    The Court also finds that the defendants’ conduct in publishing the books and manuscript referred to above was intended to vex, annoy, and injure the plaintiffs and to destroy the ministries of all three plaintiffs.

    This is supported by evidence that SCP, Duddy’s employer, and co-author, had a long standing animosity against the Local Church dating back to the early 1970s and the loss of some of its members. This was confirmed by James Miller and Jack Sparks, co-founder of SCP. (Sparks, p. 16) Dr. Melton testified that SCP came out second best in these confrontations. (Tr. pp. 48-49) In addition, documentary and deposition testimony disclosed that Inter-Varsity perceived itself to be in a competitive relationship with the Local Churches on college campuses in preaching the Gospel and because of the loss of its members to the Local Churches (Sire, Vol. 4, pp. 47-48, 58-59; Vol. 5, p. 228; Ex. 85 (Former Ex. 381.240) and therefore, solicited the aid of Duddy and SCP in expanding SCP’s prior publication, The God- Men I, so as to add the so-called “sociological” section which contained most of the defamatory statements referred to above (Ex. 85 (Former Ex. 383.4)). In responding to their solicitation, Duddy presented to Inter-Varsity a “sales pitch” that the book “may contribute to the Local Churches’ demise.” (Ex. 38) (pp. 28:25—29:21)

  11. Punitive Damages Awarded
  12.   Witness Lee $2,000,000.00
      Church in Anaheim 1,000,000.00
      William Freeman 400,000.00
      Total $3,400,000.00

  13. Summary of Damages Awarded
  14.   Total compensatory damages $8,500,000.00
      Total punitive damages 3,400,000.00
      Total $11,900,000.00

Table of Contents of the Court′s Decision on “The God-men” by Neil T. Duddy and SCP

From the Statement of Decision of the Superior Court of the State of California in and for the County of Alameda

       
TABLE OF CONTENTS
  Judges Comments
I. Introduction 1:17—2:7
II. Conclusion 2:7-17
III. Specific Court Findings 2:18—32:6
  REGARDING FOURTEEN ACCUSATIONS
  1. Cult 2:18—4:9
  2. Deceptive Recruiting 4:10—6:17
  3. Control by Witness Lee 6:18—8:10
  4. Brainwashing 8:11—9:19
  5. Control by Church Leaders 9:20—10:24
  6. Isolation 10:25—11:7
  7. Power Structure 11:21—13:21
  8. Immorality 13:22—15:25
  9. “Moral Dwarfs” 16:1—17:5
  10. Humiliation 17:6—19:2
  11. Lack of Forthrightness 19:3—20:12
  12. Fear Tactics 20:13—21:5
  13. Persecution 21:6—22:3
  14. Financial Mismanagement 22:4—24:6
  REGARDING INTENTION AND COMPENSATORY DAMAGES
  15. False Statements Intended 24:7-13
  16. Defamation 24:14—25:7
  17. Reputation of Witness Lee 25:8-26
  18. Damages to Witness Lee 26:1-5
  19. Reputation of Church 26:6-14
  20. Damages to Church 26:15-19
  21. Reputation of William Freeman 26:20—27:12
  22. Damages to William Freeman 27:13-17
  REGARDING INTENTION AND PUNITIVE DAMAGES
  23. “Actual Malice” 27:25—28:3
  24. Intention to Destroy 28:25—32:6

Statement of Decision—Lee v. Duddy re: “The God-Men” by Neil Duddy and the SCP


Statement of Decision —The Judgment on The God-Men

The following is an accurate rendering of Judge Leon Seyranian’s Statement of Decision in the Lee v. Duddy case concerning The God-Men by Neil Duddy and the SCP.
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In some cases Judge Seyranian’s statement identifies a witness’s testimony supporting a particular point in the decision without citing the page number.
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        IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

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     This matter came on regularly for trial and was heard as an
	 
uncontested matter as to the defendant Neil T. Duddy, because of

his failure to appear, and was heard as a default matter as to

the defendant Schwengeler-Verlag for its failure to file a

responsive pleading to the plaintiffs' First Amended and First

Supplemental Complaint.  Although the trial was uncontested, the

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cross examine the witnesses in order to ascertain the truth as

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regardless of whether the defendants appear or not.  There was

nothing that the Court wanted to see or to ask that was not

provided.  Furthermore, the evidence on behalf of the plaintiffs

was substantiated by independent evidence from qualified expert

witnesses.  Accordingly, the Court finds that the manuscript by

Neil. T. Duddy entitled The God-Men (Exhibit 1) disseminated

(published) in the United States, the book Die Sonderlehre des

Witness Lee Und Seiner Ortsgemeinde published by Schwengeler-

Verlag (Exhibit 3) disseminated (published) in Europe, and the

book The God-Men, An Inquiry Into Witness Lee and the Local

Church by Neil T. Duddy and the SCP published by Inter-Varsity

Press (Exhibit 5) disseminated (published) in the United States

and England, are in all major respects false, defamatory and

unprivileged, and, therefore, libelous. (California Civil Code

§45)

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     1.   All of the defendants' publications create the image

that Witness Lee and William Freeman are leaders of a cult and

that the Church in Anaheim is a cult.  All of the express and

implied statements to that effect are false and defamatory.

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Fuller Theological Seminary.)  The epitome of the cult leader and

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Religions, and a well qualified expert on the subject of "new

religions.", pages 20, 39 and 92 of the trial transcript of May
 
28, 1985, hereafter "Tr.")
 
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reasonably so understand the publications. This was confirmed by

testimony of the expert witnesses.

     The finding that these statements are false and defamatory

as to the plaintiffs is supported by the testimony of the expert

witnesses Dr. J. Gordon Melton; Dr. (Father) John Saliba, S.J.,

of the University of Detroit, an expert in the study of new

religions and "anti-cult" organizations; the Reverend Dr. Eugene

Van Ness Goetchius, an Episcopal priest and a Professor of

Theology at the Episcopal Divinity School affiliated with Harvard

University; Dr. Rodney Stark, Professor of Sociology at the

University of Washington; and Dr. H. Newton Malony. These

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plaintiff William T. Freeman is likewise a Christian teacher and

preacher.

     It is the finding of the Court that defendants made these

statements with knowledge of their falsity and deliberately to

create the image of the plaintiffs as such a cult. This finding

is supported by the testimony of the expert witnesses, as well as

Duddy's testimony that the advertisement correlating Witness Lee

with Jim Jones in Die Sonderlehre des Witness Lee und Seiner

Ortsgemeinde was unfair. (Duddy, pp 784-785)

     2.  The express and implied statements in defendants'

publications that plaintiffs either engage in or advocate

deceptive recruiting practices in order to bring people into the

Local Church are false and defamatory.

     Duddy intended to convey to the readers that Witness Lee's

teaching could cause members to lie, be deceitful and engage in

deceptive proselytizing practices. (Duddy, pp. 433-435, 530-531,

754, 2155, 2157). Readers would reasonably so understand the

publications.

     The finding of falsity of these statements is supported by

the testimony of present members. It is also supported by Dr.

Malony (an expert on conversion processes) together with his

survey of current and former members of the Local Church (Ex.

24), who unanimously confirmed that there was no such deception,

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     The principal "case history" of such conduct reported in the

publications was that of "Cia" or "Rebecca" who in real life was

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     Mrs. Meinecke testified at trial as to the falsity of the

general tenor of the story as well as the falsity of virtually

all the "facts" regarding the alleged incident. The falsity was

also confirmed by Son Rockstroh, the alleged proselyter.

     It is the finding of this Court that the defendants made the

foregoing statements or implications with the knowledge that they

were false or with a reckless disregard of the truth or falsity

thereof. Defendant Duddy admitted that he had not checked with

any of the principal persons actually involved in the alleged

"case history" (Duddy deposition (hereafter "Duddy") pp 549, 957,

1049) and did not verify information from sources that were

available to him. (Duddy, pp 990-1, 994-5, 1016, 963) Moreover,

Brooks Alexander (Co-founder of SCP, cc-author of all the

publications (Duddy, pp 248, 1169 and Alexander, p 79)) and James

Sire testified that they saw no documentation of any of the

statements regarding Cindy or Rebecca. (Alexander deposition

(hereafter "Alexander"), p. 1604; Sire deposition (hereafter

"Sire"), Vol. 6, p. 484) Alexander admitted that although he came

to doubt Duddy's competence to do factual investigation

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validity of Duddy's informants, (Alexander, pp 1610-1611) he did

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     Dr. Stark (co-author of Lofland-Stark Model) testified that

Duddy did not accurately present his model of religious

conversions that Duddy used to explain the Local Churches'

alleged recruitment practices. Dr. Stark stated that Duddy

"skips everything important in the model and comes out with some

flat assertions that are completely, almost diabolically, the

reverse of what the model says". (Tr., p 162) Dr. Stark stated

that assuming Duddy had actually read Stark's presentation of the

model, Stark would have to conclude that Duddy's

misrepresentation was "malicious."  (Tr., p. 163) Dr. Malony

also criticized Duddy's misuse of Stark's conversion model and

stated that there was no validity to defendants' statements that

the Local Churches' recruitment practices were somehow evil and

qualitatively different from those of other Christian

organizations.

     3.   The express and implied statements in defendants'

publications that Witness Lee rules the Local Churches with an

"iron rod" or "with a firm hand" are false and defamatory.

     Duddy intended to convey to the readers that Witness Lee was

a virtual dictator over too many details of Local Church life

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investigation, that Lee's position in the Local Church was that

of a preacher and teacher rather than exercising "administrative

power in a kingly way" as the publications had asserted and that

no such hierarchy existed. (Tr. 39) Dr. Malony's survey results

(Ex. 24) were consistent with Dr. Melton's testimony.

     It is the finding of the Court that the defendants made the

foregoing statements with the knowledge that they were false or

with a reckless disregard of the truth or falsity.

     There was evidence that the authors and the publishers

distorted statements made by Witness Lee in order to create an

impression that Witness Lee asserts and imposes complete and

unchallengeable control over church affairs and church members'

lives. Jack Buckley (an SCP author of God-Men I whose work Duddy

and SCP carried over into the publications sued upon) admitted

that quotations from Witness Lee's work were taken out of

context, misused and created a false and misleading

representation of Witness Lee's teaching in that regard. (Buckley

deposition (hereafter "Buckley"), pp 728-9, 741-2, 766 and 767)

Dr. J. Gordon Melton concluded that given Duddy's education and

claims of having read Witness Lee's writings, the consistent

distortions of quotations indicate deliberate misrepresentations.

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consistent with the concept that Witness Lee does not exercise

such control. Nevertheless, that statement and its context was

subsequently changed to assert in the publications exactly the

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     4.   The express and implied statements in defendants'

publications that plaintiffs or any of the Local Churches engage

in mental manipulation, or any of the various forms of what is

commonly referred to as "brainwashing" or "thought reform" are

false and defamatory. The statements concerning the practice of

pray-reading and calling on the name of the Lord as being mental

manipulation techniques causing, among other things, blurred

mental acuity is also false.

     It was Duddy's intention to convey to the readers that "soft

thought reform" was utilized by Witness Lee and the Local Church

which would result in members sacrificing their individual and

personal worth and withdraw from society. (Duddy, pp. 1092-1093)

and readers would reasonably so understand the publications.

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testified that pray-reading, far from being a manipulative or

eastern mystical technique, was a helpful means to approach the

Bible. Dr. Melton testified that the practices are not

"technological and pagan", they do involve the use of mental

faculties, they do not alter consciousness. (Tr. p. 25). Dr.

Melton found no evidence of loss of "mental acuity." (Tr. p. 91)

     It is the finding of this Court that the statements were

made by the defendants knowing they were false or with a reckless

disregard of the truth or falsity.

     Brooks Alexander, the author of the appendix which purported

to describe these manipulative techniques, testified that he

could not name one person who told him they had blurred mental

acuity from said alleged practices, nor had he asked any member

regarding it, nor did he know for a fact that there was any

elimination of consciously directed thought from pray-reading or

calling on the name of the Lord. (Alexander, pp 1281-2, 1319-20,

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     5. The express and implied statements in the defendants'

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Saliba testified that Duddy attempted to convey to the readers

that Witness Lee rules "like a despot and the elders are more or

less like little despots", "they control everything and you are

just merely submissive to them." (Tr. p. 126)

     The finding of falsity is supported by the testimony of all

the witnesses, especially Dr. Melton and Dr. Malony, whose

survey (Ex. 24) negated the allegations of control of members'

lives.

     It is the finding of this Court that the statements were

made by the defendants knowing they were false or with a reckless

disregard of the truth or falsity.

     Neil Duddy's testimony indicated that he had never seen

anything in the teachings discouraging friendships, prohibiting

dating, nor any records of arranged marriages nor could he recall

anybody that had such records. (Duddy, pp 1145-1150, 2256-7)

Alexander testified there was no confirmation of such arranged

marriages. (Alexander, pp 1586-7) Sire has no recollection of

any substantiation of the charge of arranged marriages (Sire,

Vol. 5, pp 352-358) The testimony of William Freeman and Dr.

Steven Johnson, as well as other evidence introduced, established

that such charges were false. (Exhibit 70)

     6.   The express and implied statements in defendants'

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members from society and forbid or discourage members from

watching television, reading newspapers, going to movie theaters,

and participating in sports, is false and defamatory.

     Duddy testified that he intended to depict the Local

Churches as quarantining members from relatives who were outside

of the Local Church (Duddy, pp 1644-5) and causing people to

withdraw and be isolated from society (Duddy, pp 1092-1093) and

readers would reasonably so understand the publications.

     The finding of falsity is based upon the testimony of

plaintiffs' witnesses including Dr. Melton (Tr. p 95), Dr.

Malony, his survey (Ex. 24), Dr.Goetchius (Tr. pp 150-152),

Cindy Meinecke, Dr. Herbert Zimmer, Dr. Steven Johnson, and

Christopher Leu. See also Duddy's deposition at pages 1130-1131,

1138-1140 and 1150, wherein he acknowledged he has no evidence of

any such conduct.

     It is the finding of this Court that the statements were

made knowing they were false or with a reckless disregard of the

truth or falsity thereof, in that Duddy testified he had no

evidence of any such conduct. (Duddy, pp 1130-1131, 1138-1140,

1150)

     7.   The express and implied statements in defendants'

publications that Local Church elders have created an

unchallengeable power structure that makes it impossible for

church members to maturely exercise their faith and bear

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Leu, 100-102
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Lee, 257-263
Saliba, 119-121
   

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     Duddy intended by those statements to convey to readers that

Witness Lee and "those who cooperate with him" are social

manipulators (Duddy, p. 818) who determine God's will for members

and their families without even being consulted (Duddy, p. 2252).

Alexander testified that the book implies that the church elders

are involved in dominance and control over members. (Alexander

p. 1571) Sire testified that the statements indicate removal of

members to a totalitarian and structured environment. (Sire, Vol.

6, p. 637) Readers would reasonably so understand the

publications.

     The finding that these statements are false is supported by

the testimony of Cindy Meinecke, and current members who

testified at trial, as well as Dr. Saliba and Dr. Malony's survey

of current and former members (Ex. 24). Moreover, the testimony

of Witness Lee, William Freeman, and Anaheim elder Eugene Gruhler

indicated that the elders do not constitute an unchallengeable

power structure. Rather, members have the freedom to disagree

with elders and with Witness Lee, and that members are encouraged

to seek God's will for themselves and to bear responsibility for

their lives. Dr. Goetchius testified of his observation as to

the maturity and well-developed character generally of the Local

Church members and their families with whom he had personally

interacted. (Tr. pp 149-152)

     It is the finding of the Court that the statements were made

knowing they were false or with a reckless disregard of the truth

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Freeman,
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Gruhler, 98-100
   

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     Duddy could not recall the name of one actual Local Church

member that told Duddy that he did not make his own decisions.

(Duddy, p. 1150) Moreover, Duddy stated under oath that it was

not his testimony that members do not make their own decisions in

matters of importance in their personal lives. Duddy also did

not know if members made such decisions without consulting the

elders. (Duddy, p. 1148) Jack Buckley testified that before SCP

made the statement that Local Church members "prefer submission"

over the "exercise of personal judgment and individual

decision," SCP should have made some investigation to support the

statement. Buckley, however, was not aware of any such

investigation by SCP. (Buckley, p. 771) Buckley further

testified that the limit of his work in investigating the

government by the elders in the Local Church was to read

materials given to him by SCP and to talk with SCP members.

(Buckley, p. 721) Buckley admitted that The God-Men quoted

Witness Lee's statement, concerning ministers of the Holy Spirit,

out of context and misused it to convey the impression that the

elders have authoritative power over members. (Buckley, p. 766-

767) Dr. Saliba confirmed the misuse of this quote by Witness

Lee. (Tr. pp 126-127)

     8.   The express and implied statements in defendants'

publications that Witness Lee and the other plaintiffs are

teaching and advocating conduct that would allow or encourage

church members to engage in immoral behavior are false and

defamatory.


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     Duddy intended to convey to the readers that Witness Lee's

teaching instructed one to listen to intuition and feelings, but

in no case consider the Scripture; that one can engage in sexual

assault, including rape, be a liar and deceitful and still regard

himself as a good Christian; that you abide by your inner

feelings, regardless of what the Scripture says; that unlike the

Christian community, Witness Lee's teachings enhance immorality.

(Duddy, pp 531, 566, 568-569, 673). Readers would reasonably so

understand the publications.

     All witnesses testified as to the falsity of all such

statements or implications and established that all the writings

of Witness Lee taught the Biblically high standard of morality.

Dr. Maloney's survey (Ex. 24) also supported the finding of

falsity, as does the evidence of the author's and publishers'

deliberate distortion of statements by Witness Lee.

     It is the finding of the Court that the statements were made

knowing they were false or with a reckless disregard of the truth

or falsity thereof.

     Dr. Melton testified that Duddy conveyed to the readers

exactly the opposite of what Witness Lee teaches regarding

morality (Tr. p. 59) and that for Duddy to convey such an

impression was either deliberate or a reckless disregard of what

Witness Lee said (Tr. p. 75-76); the authority of the Scripture

in Witness Lee's teachings was misrepresented by Duddy to create

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Gruhler, 94-96
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Malony, 41
Melton, 58-59
Rockstroh, 425
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Lee repeatedly upholds the Bible and its moral commandments. (Tr.

pp 57-58)

     Dr. Goetchius testified that Duddy's use of Witness Lee's

writings was a deliberate, careful misrepresentation of Witness

Lee's teachings, including the teachings on morality. (Tr. p.

141, 143)

     Dr. Saliba testified the quotes were taken out of context,

"I get the impression they were twisted around to mean what he

wanted them to mean." (Tr. pp 125-126)

     The defendants' own testimony established that the

statements were made knowing them to be false, or with a reckless

disregard of the truth or falsity thereof.

     Duddy admitted that Witness Lee teaches that people should

follow the Ten Commandments and live a life higher than the Ten

Commandments but that he never told the readers that Witness Lee

taught this. (Duddy, pp. 406-7, 411-412)

     Buckley testified that:

          ". . . God Men I as written has painted
          a false picture as far as witness Lee's
          teachings on morality."

          (Buckley, p. 843)

    David Adeney, a member of the Board of Reference of SCP and

former missionary to China testified that he has never seen any

teachings in Witness Lee's writings that would allow one to be a

liar, deceitful or engage in rape and still regard himself as a

good Christian. (Adeney, p. 183)




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     9.   The express and implied statements in defendants'

publications that the plaintiffs or church members that follow

plaintiffs' teachings are "moral dwarfs," which the authors

define as persons whose conduct falls below the standard of the

law, are false and defamatory.

     Duddy again intended to convey to the readers that Witness

Lee's teachings enhance immorality. (Duddy, p. 623) Readers

would reasonably so understand the publications.

     The finding that these statements are false is supported by

the testimony of Jack Buckley (Buckley, p. 796), the testimony of

plaintiffs' expert witnesses and Cindy Meinecke.

     It is the finding of the Court that the statements were made

knowing they were false or with a reckless disregard of the truth

or falsity.

     Dr. Melton testified that Duddy not only distorted Witness

Lee's teachings in characterizing them as creating "moral

pygmyism", but also distorted Benjamin Warfield's intent in

creating the term. Dr. Melton testified that there are numerous

writings of Witness Lee that are directly contrary to what Duddy

conveyed to the readers. (Tr. pp. 69-73)

     Dr. Goetchius testified that a reasonable interpretation of

Duddy's charge of "moral pygmyism" would be that of someone who

is short on morals or lacking in moral perception and

understanding. He further testified that there was no

justification for such a charge against Witness Lee's teachings

or those who follow it and to the contrary, Witness Lee's


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teachings require a morality higher than the ethical code of the

law (Tr., pp. 143-144)

     Buckley testified that he had not found anything in his

reading of Witness Lee that would justify calling people who

believe in his teachings moral dwarfs. (Buckley, p. 796)

     10.  The express and implied statements in defendants'

publications that plaintiffs have publicly humiliated members and

that some Anaheim church members and an alleged Northern

California leader were hospitalized for psychiatric care because

of plaintiffs' acts are false and defamatory.

     Duddy testified that he intended to convey to the readers

that Witness Lee periodically publicly humiliates members.

(Duddy, p. 1159) Sire testified that he recognized these

allegations as being potentially libelous. (Sire, Vol. 4, p. 95-

97, Vol. 6 520-521), Ex. 68) Readers would reasonably so

understand the publications.

     Plaintiffs' evidence established that there was no such

conduct by Witness Lee or any of the plaintiffs and that no such

hospitalizations ever occurred.

     Dr. Melton testified he found no evidence of humiliation or

hospitalization. (Tr. p. 92) Dr. Malony's survey (Ex. 24)

confirmed, even from ex-members, that there was no such

humiliation.

     It is the finding of the Court that the statements were made

knowing they were false or with a reckless disregard of the truth

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Freeman, 385
Gruhler, 80,
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     Duddy never confirmed one hospitalization and could not name

one person allegedly hospitalized. He had no documentation

(Duddy pp 1166-68), nor did he feel he should check. Duddy also

asked the alleged Northern California church leader for an

affidavit supporting such an allegation but was unable to obtain

one. (Duddy, p. 1165) Duddy admitted that he has never been

advised by any medical or psychological expert that any member of

a local church has suffered due to Lee's theology or alleged

thought reform. (Duddy, p. 1089)

     Albrecht, an SCP director, testified that it was Duddy's

obligation to verify the allegations and that he should have

tried to speak to the people allegedly hospitalized. (Albrecht,

pp. 117-118) It was Duddy's primary responsibility to find out

who allegedly went to the hospital. (Albrecht, pp 119-120)

     Squires, a director of SCP and the person in charge of

defending the present lawsuit, was not aware of any evidence that

a Northern California church leader was hospitalized because or

Witness Lee's conduct. (Squires, p. 723) He could not remember

any response to questionnaires he recently sent out concerning

church members needing psychiatric care. (Squires, p. 760) He

was not aware of any investigation done to determine the accuracy

of the psychological or sociological areas of the book.

(Squires, pp. 724-725)

     Sire, of Inter-Varsity Press, never received any

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the Northern California church leader nor had he ever seen any

records dealing with the matter. (Sire, Vol. 4, pp. 97-98)

     11.  The express and implied statements in defendants'

publications that William Freeman, or any elder in the church in

Anaheim, deceived Fuller Seminary is false and defamatory.

Furthermore, the express and implied statements in said

publications that "this alleged lack of forthrightness in self-

representation is a quality which the Local Church displays" is

also false and defamatory.

     Duddy intended to convey to the readers that William Freeman

had not been forthright in his representation to Fuller and that

he was concealing certain information, also that Local Church

members are people who conceal, which he represented was an

accurate description of their behavior and represented the

general character and quality of the Local Church. (Duddy, pp

430-432, 433-435). Readers would reasonably so understand the

publications.

     The finding of falsity is based upon testimony of Dr. Cecil

Melvin Robeck, Jr., Director of Academic Services of Fuller

Seminary, formerly Director of Admissions, and the plaintiff

William Freeman, together with the exhibits presented, (Ex. 14,

15, 16, 17, 18, and 19) which established conclusively that there

was no concealment, deception or lack of forthrightness nor had

any member of the Fuller faculty made any such statement (Tr. pp

81-89) and which also proved that such an allegation was a

fabrication by the defendants. Furthermore, the foregoing


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evidence, together with the testimony of the expert witnesses

established that all allegations of concealment, deception or

lack of forthrightness on the part of the Local Church, its

leaders or members are also false.

     It is the finding of the Court that the statements were made

knowing them to be false or with a reckless disregard of the

truth or falsity thereof.

     Sire confirmed that the Fuller Seminary admissions officials

stated that Freeman was as forthright as possible and there was

no thought of misrepresentation. (Ex. 47) Based upon that

evidence Sire pulled the Freeman-Fuller incident from The God-

Men, published by Inter-Varsity Press.

     12.  The express and implied statements in defendants'

publications that plaintiffs use fear tactics or threats of

reprisal in order to keep members loyal to the Local Church and

prevent them from leaving are false and defamatory.

     Duddy intended to convey to the readers that the Local

Church harassed and persecuted former Local Church members.

(Duddy, pp. 1774, 2235). Readers would reasonably so understand

the publications.

     The finding of falsity is based upon the testimony of

plaintiffs' witnesses, including present members, Cindy Meinecke

and Dr. Melton who established that there were no fear tactics or

threats. Dr. Melton's testimony was that members were not being

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participation was not coerced but rather because they enjoyed

being in the Local Church. (Tr. p. 96-97)

     It is the finding of the Court that the statements were made

knowing them to be false or with a reckless disregard of the

truth or falsity thereof.

     13.  The express and implied statements in defendants'

publications that "most people who have left the Local Church

find it necessary to relocate" in order to avoid Local Church

persecution and that any such persecution occurred (including

vandalizing of ex-members' homes) are all false and defamatory.

     Duddy intended to convey to the readers that most people who

leave the Local Church find it necessary to relocate to avoid

persecution. (Duddy, pp. 896-898)

     The finding of falsity is based upon the testimony of Eugene

Gruhler which established that former members generally do not

move away. Those that do move away do not do so because of fear

of persecution as alleged. His testimony also established that

some former members actually moved back into the area of Local

Churches. Mr. Gruhler also investigated the allegations of

vandalism and found that they were not only false but that the

persons allegedly reporting the same denied such reports.

     It is the finding of the Court that the statements were made

knowing them to be false or with a reckless disregard of the

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     Duddy admitted that no one in SCP, including himself had

ever checked with anyone who allegedly had a home vandalized.

(Duddy, p. 920)

     14.  The express and implied statements in defendants'

publications that Witness Lee, or any of the plaintiffs, were

guilty of financial mismanagement including any alleged misuse of

$235,000 intended for a Stuttgart meeting hall are false and

defamatory.

     It was Duddy's intention to convey to the readers a possible

violation of law in the misuse of funds and also to demonstrate

financial mismanagement. (Duddy, pp. 822-823, 839, 840, 849)

Readers would reasonably so understand the publications.

     The finding of falsity is based upon testimony and

documentary evidence presented at the trial which established

that the funds for a Stuttgart meeting hall were originally

forwarded to the Church in Stuttgart for the purpose represented.

(Ex. 6 and 7) The funds were returned to the United States only

after the proposed transaction in Stuttgart failed. The money

was to be held in the United States, earning a higher rate of

interest than in Germany, until the Church in Stuttgart found a

suitable meeting hall. The Church in Stuttgart continued its

efforts to obtain a meeting hall, (Ex. 31) which was known by all

defendants prior to the publication of either Die Sonderlehre des

Witness Lee Und Seiner Ortsgemeinde or The God-Men published by

Inter-Varsity Press. (Ex. 46) (Mr. Sire of Inter-Varsity Press

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(Ex. 46)) The Church in Stuttgart found a suitable meeting hall

and received the money with interest, upon its request, prior to

the publication of Die Sonderlehre des Witness Lee Und Seiner

Ortsgemeinde. Although that purchase was unable to be completed,

the money thereafter remained in Stuttgart with the Church in

Stuttgart and was ultimately used for the purchase of the

Church's present meeting hall.

     Duddy acknowledged that such facts do not indicate

mismanagement of money or deception. (Duddy pp. 835-837)

     It is the finding of the Court that the statements were

published knowing them to be false or with a reckless disregard

of the truth or falsity thereof.

     Albrecht testified it was irresponsible journalism to

publish allegations of mismanagement of money without having some

documentation. (Albrecht, p. 242) No such documentation was ever

produced. (Sire, Vol. 5, pp 301-3)

     Duddy conceded he never contacted anyone in the Church in

Stuttgart or the Church in Anaheim regarding the transaction.

(Duddy, pp. 826-7, 840-1, 875) His sole source of alleged

information was Max Rapoport, whom he knew was in conflict with

the Local Church. Duddy had been warned by SCP to be careful of

ex-members' statements and to check with other sources to confirm

the accuracy of such statements. (Duddy, pp. 824-6) Duddy did

not. Duddy had obvious reasons to doubt the veracity and

accuracy of any report by Rapoport. (St. Amant v. Thompson (1968)

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     Duddy was also unable to persuade Rapoport to verify the

alleged information by an affidavit. (Duddy, p. 865, Ex. 43)

     Sire recognized the lack of documentation as a major problem

of this accusation and noted the allegation as being "libel".

(Ex. 42 and 41) Sire did not recall seeing any documentation nor

asking for any. (Sire, Vol. 5, p. 301-303)

     15.  All of the defendants intended to convey to the readers

all of the false statements set forth above or recklessly

disregarded the false and defamatory meanings that would be

conveyed to the readers.

     This is supported by the testimony of all experts as well as

the deposition testimony of Duddy, Alexander, Sire and Buckiey

offered by plaintiffs.

     16. All of the false statements set forth above were

defamatory in that the same convey to the readers that the

plaintiffs Witness Lee and William Freeman are leaders of a

"cult," and the Church in Anaheim is such a "cult". The false

statements also convey to the readers that plaintiffs are engaged

in a program of deceptive recruiting practices that prey upon

weak and vulnerable people in order to bring them under the

plaintiffs' total subjugation; that plaintiffs control every area

of Local Church members' lives through the use of fear and other

various techniques of mental manipulation and social isolation.

The statements also convey to the readers that plaintiffs are

teaching principles that allow, encourage, or condone immoral

conduct; also, that plaintiffs are exploiting these people


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financially for plaintiffs' own gain and further that those who

leave are persecuted and threatened with disaster.

     This is supported by the testimony of all experts and the

presentation of the cover of The God-Men, by the American

Broadcasting Company on television for a program on mind-

manipulating cults, which cover contains the name of the

plaintiff, Witness Lee, together with a caricature of him.

     17. The plaintiff Witness Lee has been exposed to hatred,

contempt, ridicule, and obloquy by reason of the false and

defamatory statements, and in addition his calling as a minister

of the Bible for over 50 years has been severely and irreparably

harmed. His reputation has also been severely and irreparably

damaged. (Scott v. Times Mirror, (1919) 181 Cal. 345, 365) In

addition, the plaintiff Witness Lee has suffered severe emotional

distress from these charges (Douglas v. Janis, (1974) 43

Cal.App.3d 931, 940 and Waite v. San Fernando Publishing Co.,

(1918) 178 Cal. 303, 306) in knowing that his family and those

who follow his teachings have likewise been exposed to hatred,

contempt, ridicule, and obloquy, have had family relations

destroyed and in some instances have lost their jobs, all because

of following his teachings. Plaintiff Witness Lee has suffered

further emotional distress because of the harm done to his wife,

children and grandchildren from the severe and irreparable damage

to Witness Lee's reputation.

     This is supported by the testimony of all expert witnesses,

present members and the ABC-TV programs. (Ex. 84a and b)


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     18.  That the sum of Five Million Dollars ($5,000,000.00) is

a reasonable sum to award the plaintiff Witness Lee for the

damages sustained by him by reason of all of the libelous

publications involved in this action as against the defendants

Neil Duddy and Schwengeler-Verlag.

     19. The plaintiff, the Church in Anaheim has been exposed

to hatred, contempt, ridicule, and obloquy by reason of the false

and defamatory statements, and has been severely and irreparably

harmed (Vegod Corp. v. American Broadcasting Co., Inc., (1979) 25

Cal.3d 763, 770) in its function and position as a Christian

church, and in addition has suffered the loss of members and

potential members and the benefits therefrom, as well as having

its members and their families exposed to hatred, contempt

ridicule, and obloquy.

     20.  That the sum of Three Million Dollars ($3,000,000.00)

is a reasonable sum to award the plaintiff the Church in Anaheim

for the damages sustained by it by reason of all of these

libelous publications as against the defendants Neil Duddy and

Schwengeler-Verlag.

     21.  The plaintiff William Freeman has been exposed to

hatred, contempt, ridicule, and obloquy by reason of the false

and defamatory statements and, in addition, his calling as a

minister of the Bible for over 20 years has been severely and

irreparably harmed. His reputation has been severely and

irreparably damaged. In addition, the plaintiff William Freeman

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knowing that his family and those who follow his teachings have

likewise been exposed to hatred, contempt, ridicule, and obloquy.

Further, the plaintiff William Freeman has suffered damages

because he was the only Church in Anaheim elder named in these

publications, the only church leader, other than Witness Lee,

against whom all the accusations were being made, and because he

was the only Local Church elder who attended Fuller Seminary

during the time period mentioned in these publications.

Plaintiff, William Freeman, has suffered further emotional

distress because of the harm done to his wife, children and

grandchildren from the severe and irreparable damage done to

William Freeman's reputation.

     22.  That the sum of Five Hundred Thousand Dollars

($500,000.00) is a reasonable sum to award the plaintiff William

Freeman for the damages sustained by reason of all of these

libelous publications as against the defendants Neil Duddy and

Schwengeler-Verlag.

     23.  The Court finds that none of the plaintiffs are public

figures. (Gertz v. Welch, (1974) 418 U.S. 345, 41 L.Ed.2d 808,

94 S.Ct. 2997; Hutchinson v. Proxmire, (1979) 443 U.S. 111, 135,

61 L.Ed.2d 411, 431, 91 S.Ct. 2675) Therefore, under the

principles of Gertz v. Welch, the plaintiffs need not prove

"actual malice" (knowing falsity or reckless disregard of the

truth or falsity) in order to recover compensatory damages.

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"actual malice." The plaintiffs indicated at the outset of this

trial and hearing that they intended to establish "actual malice"

and the Court is satisfied that they have done so. The evidence

indicated that in almost all instances where the defendants

purported to quote from Witness Lee's statements they did in fact

distort and take out of context such statements by Witness Lee in

order to arrive at a predetermined result or conclusion. This

is supported by the testimony of the plaintiffs and the testimony

of Dr. Melton, (Tr., pp 16, 18, 23, 46, 48-49), Dr. Saliba, (Tr.,

pp 109, 114, 117-118, 135), Dr. Stark, (Tr., pp 162-163, 171-

174), and Dr. Goetchius (Tr. pp 141-142). In addition, the

evidence has established that the defendants also distorted the

sociological model of religious conversion by Lofland and Stark

in order to attempt to fabricate a theory of deceptive

recruitment by Local Church leaders and members allegedly based

upon the plaintiff Witness Lee's teachings. The testimony of Dr.

Rodney Stark, one of the model's authors, convinces the Court

that the distortion was deliberate and intentional. (Tr., pp

162-163, 169, 171-172) (St. Amant v. Thompson (1968) 390 U.S.

727, 732, 20 L.Ed.2d 262, 267-8, 88 S.Ct. 1323) Furthermore, the

deposition testimony of Duddy, Alexander, Buckley and Sire

confirm that the defamatory statements were published in some

instances knowing they were false and in other instances with a

reckless disregard of the truth or falsity thereof.

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intended to vex, annoy, and injure the plaintiffs and to destroy

the ministries of all three plaintiffs.

     This is supported by evidence that SCP, Duddy's employer,

and co-author, had a long standing animosity against the Local

Church dating back to the early 1970s and the loss of some of its

members. This was confirmed by James Miller and Jack Sparks, co-

founder of SCP. (Sparks, p. 16) Dr. Melton testified that SCP

came out second best in these confrontations. (Tr. pp. 48-49) In

addition, documentary and deposition testimony disclosed that

Inter-Varsity perceived itself to be in a competitive

relationship with the Local Churches on college campuses in

preaching the Gospel and because of the loss of its members to

the Local Churches (Sire, Vol. 4, pp. 47-48, 58-59; Vol. 5, p.

228; Ex. 85 (Former Ex. 381.240) and therefore, solicited the aid

of Duddy and SCP in expanding SCP's prior publication, The God-

Men I, so as to add the so-called "sociological" section which

contained most of the defamatory statements referred to above

(Ex. 85 (Former Ex. 383.4)). In responding to their

solicitation, Duddy presented to Inter-Varsity a "sales pitch"

that the book "may contribute to the Local Churches' demise."

(Ex. 38)

     Testimony and documentary evidence also establishes that the

defendant Schwengeler-Verlag had a history of being in publishing

competition with the Church in Stuttgart concerning the works of

Watchman Nee and also solicited the aid of Duddy and SCP to

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joined in these endeavors to harm, if not destroy the ministries

of the plaintiffs (as well as the Churches throughout the world)

(Ex. 38, 40). In addition, Schwengeler-Verlag inserted in Die

Sonderlehre des Witness Lee und Seiner Ortsgemeinde an

advertisement for a book on Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple and

correlated it with the plaintiffs by the language "Here is

another book that reveals how seducers operate." This simple

juxtaposition was "calculated" to remind someone "of the picture

on Time Magazine of all these people lying around dead." (Tr. p.

147 - Dr. Goetchius)

     From all of the testimony it is clear that the traditional

use of the word "Cult" has changed so that we now have, since the

middle 1970's, a new meaning to the word. It is now understood

to mean "brainwashing of members" (Tr. p. 28), deceitful

recruiting (Tr. p. 28), a mischievous group that is evil and

ready to control you and take your money (Tr. p. 113), harmful to

their members (Tr. p. 20), undermining American values (Tr. p.

20). Cults are claimed to be just about every bad thing in the

book these days, and with the pervasive images of Manson and Jim

Jones hanging over us, any group that is called a Cult is

immediately associated with those two people.

     As stated by Dr. Melton, "to call someone a Cult is the

1970's equivalent of labeling them a Pinko (Communist) in the

days of McCarthyism". (Tr. p. 49) Once the accusation is made,

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     The Court agrees with the statement of the witness Dr.

Rodney Stark when he stated:

          "If all that the  defendants  were to do
          was write a book even though  real nasty
          to Witness Lee's theology,  we  wouldn't
          be here  today  because  that is fair in
          our American Society.   You can do that.
          But  the   second   you   start  talking
          . . .  naming    names    and    events,
          discrediting events, sexual hanky-panky,
          financial hanky-panky, or indeed getting
          to a certain  point  of  quoting a man's
          theological   statements   diametrically
          opposed to what the man is saying,  then
          I  think  we  have  . . .   We  are  not
          talking about  religion,  we are talking
          about truth, we are talking about libel,
          we are talking  about  fairness,  we are
          talking about a  whole  constellation of
          things." (Tr. pp. 171-172)

     The damage to the plaintiffs cannot be erased by this

action, but the following awards of punitive damages will

vindicate the plaintiffs and deter others similarly situated from

issuing further deliberate untruths about the plaintiffs. (Secord

v. Schlachter, 58 Fed.Supp. 56-58 (1983)).

     Therefore, the Court awards punitive damages in favor of the

plaintiffs and against the defendants as follows:

     For the plaintiff Witness Lee as against Neil T. Duddy

One Million Dollars ($1,000,000.00).

     For the plaintiff Witness Lee as against Schwengeler-Verlag

One Million Dollars ($1,000,000.00).

     For the plaintiff Church in Anaheim as against Neil T. Duddy

Five Hundred Thousand Dollars ($500,000.00).





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     For the plaintiff Church in Anaheim as against Schwengeler-

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     For the plaintiff William T. Freeman as against Neil T.

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Copyright © 2004. DCP. All Rights Reserved.

Retraction of “The Mindbenders” by Jack Sparks

The following is an accurate rendition of the retraction of The Mindbenders by Thomas Nelson, Inc.

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In 1977 The Mindbenders, a book authored by Jack Sparks, published by Thomas Nelson, Inc., accused Witness Lee and The Local Churches of being a cult and of being heretical in their beliefs. Both before and after publication of their first edition, Nelson received many letters from The Local Churches and their members protesting the falsity of the chapter concerning them. Notwithstanding these letters, Nelson published an expanded second edition in 1979. In 1980 Local Churches brought suit against Thomas Nelson and the author for libel.

The Local Churches should not have been included in either edition of The Mindbenders. Nelson has no desire to inflict any damage or harm upon Witness Lee, The Local Churches, or their members by the continued publication of this book. Therefore, Nelson hereby retracts the statements made in The Mindbenders about them, and extends its apology to the good Christian members of The Local Churches. Accordingly, Nelson has withdrawn the book from publication and distribution and encourages all book sellers who have any unsold copies to return them for credit.

THOMAS NELSON, INC
April 10, 1983

This retraction by Thomas Nelson, Inc. was published on Sunday, April 10, 1983 in the following newspapers:

Akron Beacon Journal
Miami Herald
Atlanta Journal/Constitution

New York Times
Boston Globe
Oklahoma City Sunday Oklahoman
Chicago Tribune
Orange County (Calif.) Register
Cleveland Plain Dealer

Raleigh News & Observer
Columbus Dispatch
San Francisco Examiner & Chronicle
Dallas Morning News

Seattle Times
Houston Chronicle
Washington Post
Los Angeles Times

It was also printed in the following publications:

Wall Street Journal — April 11, 1983
Christianity Today — May 20, 1983

Christian News — April 25, 1983
Moody Monthly — June 1983

“The God-Men” by Neil T. Duddy and SCP – History

In November 1980, Witness Lee, William Freeman, and the Church in Anaheim, Inc. filed suit against Neil Duddy, the Spiritual Counterfeits Project (SCP), and Schwengeler-Verlag over the The God-Men by Neil Duddy and the SCP1 and Die Sonderlehre, a German translation of the book, published by the Swiss publisher Schwengeler-Verlag. This action not only became a landmark libel case, but also an effective exposure of the abuses of the Christian countercult movement.

Background

For a general background of the events leading up to the publishing of The God-men, see “Prelude to Conflict: Christian World Liberation Front (CWLF), the New Covenant Apostolic Order (NCAO), Spiritual Counterfeits Project (SCP) & the Local Churches.”

In 1977 SCP self-published the first edition of The God-Men: Witness Lee and the Local Church based on a manuscript commissioned by Jack Sparks and written by Alan Wallerstedt. SCP sought to promote its book through a consortium of campus evangelical and anti-cult ministries that had come together in November 1976 to discuss how to counteract the influence of certain groups on the college campuses, including the local churches.2 SCP ignored all appeals from members of the local churches concerning the book’s misrepresentations.

In 1979 a Swiss publisher, Schwengeler-Verlag, published a German translation of a revised, expanded edition of The God-Men by Neil Duddy and the SCP under the title Die Sonderlehre des Witness Lee und seiner Ortsgemeinde. Duddy’s manuscript contained even more outrageous distortions and outright falsehoods than the first edition. A slightly revised version of Duddy’s manuscript was published in English as The God-Men: An Inquiry into Witness Lee & the Local Church in 1981 by InterVarsity Press (IVP). Representatives of the local churches sent IVP over five hundred pages documenting the book’s distortions but received no response in return. When all such attempts to initiate dialogue were rebuffed and after a thorough consideration of the alternatives and the Scriptural basis for an appeal to the courts, the church in Anaheim, joined by Witness Lee and William Freeman, filed a libel suit against Neil Duddy, Schwengeler-Verlag, and the Spiritual Counterfeits Project on December 8, 1980. Because of the pending libel action over The Mindbenders, Lee v. Duddy, as the lawsuit over The God-Men came to be called, did not begin in earnest until August 1982.

Neil Duddy

In the meantime, Duddy and SCP had a serious falling out. Duddy claimed that money given to SCP for legal expenses was being funneled into other projects.3 When SCP’s leadership failed to address his concerns and in his mind retaliated against him, Duddy began to suspect that SCP was setting him up to take the fall for The God-Men.4 He fled to Denmark and withdrew from mutual defense with SCP.5

Litigation

The discovery process generated over 17,000 pages of testimony, including extensive depositions taken by the defendants. For example, the defendants deposed Witness Lee in ten separate sessions. Depositions taken by the plaintiffs included Jack Buckley, the main author of the first edition; Neil Duddy, the principal author of the second edition; Brooks Alexander, the director of SCP and primary in-house editor of both editions; and James Sire, a senior editor at InterVarsity Press.

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The testimony of those involved in producing the book repeatedly demonstrated a lack of proper standards in research, writing, and editing. Buckley testified that he had not checked Wallerstedt’s research and when shown the original context agreed that the book had taken Witness Lee’s statements out of context to create a false impression.6 Duddy admitted that he had not verified the accounts he gave in the book of many events and that he had intended to convey certain false impressions.7 Alexander admitted that he had not checked Duddy’s research even though he came to doubt Duddy’s competence as a researcher.8 James Sire’s notes and correspondence showed that he had pushed the book through to publication even though he knew it was potentially libelous, never having verified that Duddy’s accounts were true.9

During the course of the litigation the plaintiffs learned that The God-Men had been a major source of misinformation used in a book written by Tang Shou-lin and Ren Zhong-xiang in China to justify a nationwide sweep in which 2800 leaders among the local churches were arrested.10 SCP established communications with the authors of that book and sought to bolster its defense by appealing to reports originating from China’s Three-Self Patriotic Movement, reports that SCP had ample reason to doubt.11 SCP even sought to coerce the plaintiffs into dropping their case by demanding the names of members of the local churches in China with the prospect that those people could, as a result, become objects of persecution.12

On the day the trial was to begin, SCP declared bankruptcy. Their bankruptcy attorney later explained that the declaration “was filed for the purpose of preventing the trial from going forward.”13 Neither Duddy, who had fled to Denmark, nor any representative of Schwengeler-Verlag attended the trial. Although there were reasons to question the SCP’s bankruptcy claim (donations to SCP were substantially higher in the pre-trial months than at any time in its history), the plaintiffs opted not to do so because of the additional time and expense. Instead, they presented the evidence accumulated to date to the judge along with the testimony of six highly qualified expert witnesses.

Judge Leon Seyranian’s Statement of Decision, documented from the testimony of the experts and the deposition testimony of the defendants themselves, clearly demonstrated the defendants’ reckless disregard for and intentional, knowing distortion of the truth regarding the local churches. Judge Seyranian ruled that The God-Men and Die Sonderlehre were “in all major respects false, defamatory and unprivileged, and, therefore, libelous” and awarded $11,900,000 in damages to the plaintiffs. In his decision, Judge Seyranian stated, “The damage to the plaintiffs cannot be erased by this action, but the following awards of punitive damages will vindicate the plaintiffs and deter others similarly situated from issuing further deliberate untruths about the plaintiffs.” In fact, the plaintiffs only received less than .3% of that award from SCP due to its bankruptcy filing. This was only a tiny fraction of the cost incurred for pursuing the litigation, but it did at least to a degree redeem the good name of the plaintiffs and opened the way for their service to the Lord to proceed.

Aftermath

The testimony of the experts at the trial was later published in the book The Experts Speak. One of those experts, Dr. J. Gordon Melton, director of The Institute for the Study of American Religion, was so distressed at how The God-Men had misrepresented the teachings of the local churches that he wrote and published An Open Letter Concerning the Local Church, Witness Lee and The God-Men Controversy.

SCP criticized the judge’s findings on the grounds that the defendants had not had the opportunity to present their evidence in court. This was not true. Even if one were to accept the validity of the SCP’s bankruptcy claim, the incontrovertible fact is that there were two other defendants, neither of whom chose to appear for the trial. Furthermore, the judge’s written decision was largely documented using the defendants’ own testimony under oath.

The year after the case ended, SCP published a special issue of its Newsletter in which it criticized the qualifications of the plaintiffs’ experts, in spite of the fact that they were generally considered among the most knowledgeable in their respective fields and far more qualified than anyone on the SCP staff. It is important to note that SCP did not refute the findings of fact on which the judge’s decision was based, including the deposition testimony of SCP’s own staff. The expert testimony simply framed what the defendants themselves had admitted—that the book was based on inadequate research, that statements of Witness Lee were intentionally quoted out of context, etc. Further, SCP did not address the qualifications of plaintiff experts such as Dr. Rodney Stark, co-developer of the Loughlin-Stark model, which Duddy claimed to use as the basis for analyzing the “Local Church” approach to recruiting and conversion. Of Duddy’s treatment of this model, Dr. Stark testified, “If a student had ever given me that, a freshman, I’d have flunked him,” and, “He misses the entire point.” Nor, for example, did the SCP rebut the points made in Dr. Melton’s Open Letter, in which he demonstrated that Duddy and SCP had, as he testified in the trial, taken “sentences from the middle of the paragraph out of context and made them appear to say things they were not talking about.”

SCP’s friends in the countercult were outraged that one of their own would be called to account. They accused the local churches of being litigious and uncritically accepted SCP’s claim that the local churches intentionally drove SCP into bankruptcy by the lawsuit. In fact, there was ample evidence that the libel action was justified and that SCP’s financial woes were due to mismanagement. SCP’s friends also ignored the fact that SCP had greatly increased its costs and the costs to the plaintiffs by failing repeatedly to discharge their legal responsibilities, eventually leading to sanctions against them for noncompliance in the discovery process. Nevertheless, the local churches would enjoy a time of peace until the bitterness of SCP’s associates resurfaced at the end of the 1990s with Harvest House’s publication of the Encyclopedia of Cults and New Religions by John Ankerberg and John Weldon.


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1 At the time the lawsuit was filed, The God-Men was in manuscript form. A revised version of the manuscript was subsequently published as the second edition of The God-Men. Judge Seyranian’s Statement of Decision incorporated both editions of The God-Men in ruling that the book was defamatory.

2 James Bjornstad, “Project Sonlight: ‘Dispelling Darkness with the Light of God’s Son’,” Contemporary Christianity 7:1, May-June 1977:4; Letter from Bill Squires to Project Sonlight participants, March 29, 1977; Letter from Bill Squires to Project Sonlight participants, May 27, 1977.

3 Neil Duddy, “Financial Management,” outline accompanying memo of resignation, October 27, 1981; Neil Duddy, letter to Stanley Dokupil, June 6, 1982; Neil Duddy, letter to David Brooks and Michael Woodruff, July 15, 1982.

4 Interview with Neil Duddy, February 28, 1983.

5 Neil Duddy, letter to Michael Woodruff, October 18, 1982; Duddy, letter to Woodruff, November 24, 1982.

6 Deposition of Jack Buckley, 718-721, 725-728, 741-742, 766-767, 783-784, 843.

7 Deposition of Neil Duddy, 835-837, 920, 956-958, 1089, 1131, 1148-1150, 1165-1168, 1644, 1774, 2004-2005, 2139-2140, 2155, 2157, 2235, 2252-2254.

8 Deposition of Brooks Alexander, 8-9, 308-309, 450, 1209-1210, 1232, 1281-1282, 1476-1477, 1527, 1587-1589, 1605-1606, 1610-1611, 1846.

9 Deposition of James W. Sire, IV:97-98, 101-103, 168-169; V: 335, 345, 348-349, 362-363; VI:484, 520-521, 600-601.

10 This figure was given by Tang Shou-lin to Lin San-gang (Bellman Lin), September 1983 and related in an interview with Lin San-gang, in February 1985; widespread arrests of leaders in the local churches was confirmed in China News and Church Report 8, June 10, 1983; and China News and Church Report 23, September 23, 1983.

11 Arne Søvik (head of the Department of Studies of the Lutheran World Federation and coordinator of the Ecumenical China Study Liaison Group), letter to Bill Squires, written February 26, 1983, typed March 7, 1983; Søvik, letter to Squires, June 7, 1983; “The Lord in China: The Dongyang Yiwu Persecution—Another View,” translated by Tony Lambert, December 1982; Don’t Forget About China, December 1982; China and the Church 26, January/February 1983.

12 Bill Squires, SCP Director of Special Projects (i.e., The God-Men litigation), wrote to Tang Shou-lin on September 13, 1983, seeking assistance. Tang Shou-lin promised to send SCP some material and informed them of the arrests of lcoal church leaders. SCP filed an interrogatory demanding that Witness Lee identify by name people following his ministry in China. According to a November 13, 2013, report from Dr. J. Gordon Melton, a staff member at SCP asked him if he would consider it ethical for SCP to turn over names gathered by such means to authorities in China. Melton responded that it was not only unethical, but that he would not do that to his worst enemy. When Witness Lee sought protection due to the potential damage to church members in China, SCP rejected those concerns. In oral arguments their attorney, Michael Woodruff, said, “I can’t assume responsibility for people in Mainland China” (“Reporters’ Transcript of Proceedings,” February 17, 1984.).

13 Iain Macdonald, quoted in Karen Hoyt, letter to “Friends of SCP,” April 10, 1985.

NCAO/EOC Claim of Apostolic Authority and Succession

In a November 1975 meeting near Corpus Christi, Texas, seven men—Dick Ballew, Ken Berven, Jon Braun, Peter Gillquist, Ray Nethery, Jack Sparks, and Gordon Walker—adopted the name New Covenant Apostolic Order (NCAO). This formalized their self-ordination and assertion of their apostolic authority. They then tried to bring the groups of believers with whom they had been associated in recent years into a confederation of congregations under the order’s governance. Toward that end, the NCAO council held its first meeting at Grace Haven Farm in Mansfield, Ohio, from June 28 to July 1, 1976. Both the apostolic workers and elders of all the NCAO churches attended. On the last day of this gathering the NCAO’s Apostolic Council issued a statement declaring the start of the Order and defining the basic characteristics, doctrines, and government of the Order and of the congregations it would establish. In one paragraph, the NCAO leaders explicitly claimed apostolic authority for themselves:

We are APOSTOLIC because the exercise of God’s authority through apostleship is necessary today to lead the church to live under Christ’s reign. Apostleship is a gift to the church required throughout its history. God has called us to this ministry.1

The NCAO leaders also claimed apostolic succession. In a February 1979 Elders’ Conference of the Evangelical Orthodox Church, the denomination founded by the NCAO leaders, Jack Sparks, an NCAO General Apostolic Council member and Dean of its Academy of Orthodoxy Theology, gave an address titled “The Apostolic College.” In it Sparks said:

What we intend to show in this session is, first of all, that this body [the Apostolic College] has always existed, with succession; and secondly, that some who claim succession do not have succession; that some who do not claim it may well have it though their ministry in it is hampered by the fact that they do not acknowledge it; and that we certainly do have it.2

Note: The NCAO leaders had to eventually relinquish this claim when they entered the Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of North America.


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1The New Covenant Apostolic Order,” July 1, 1976, page 1.

2The Apostolic College,” February 1979, page 1.

The Oneness of the Triune God

The material on this page was written in the 1970s to respond to the criticisms of Walter Martin, founder of the Christian Research Institute (CRI) and the original “Bible Answer Man.” CRI has since withdrawn those criticisms and reversed its earlier conclusions (see “A Brief History of the Relationship between the Local Churches and the Christian Research Institute”). The text of this article is published here for the historical record, for the important points of truth it addresses, and because CRI’s criticisms, although withdrawn, are still repeated by others.

From: Answers to the Bible Answer Man – Appendix

March 4

This article is a continuation of a scriptural answer to a booklet recently published by the Christian Research Institute entitled, The Teachings of Witness Lee and the local churches. In response to the charges made in this booklet concerning our belief in the Triune God, we in the local churches openly invite the publishers to examine with us three types of Scripture which reveal the oneness of the Triune God:

  1. The interpenetration Scriptures revealing the inner relationship of oneness existing within the Triune God.
  2. The identification Scriptures revealing the outward expression of the oneness of the Triune God.
  3. The interchangeable Scriptures revealing the one operation of the Triune God within man’s experience.

1. The Interpenetration Scriptures

This type of Scripture reveals the inner relationship of oneness which exists in the Triune God. For example, the interpenetration of the Son with the Father is found in John 14:10, where Jesus says: “Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I say unto you I speak not from myself: but the Father abiding in me doth his works.” This verse unveils that the relationship between the Father and the Son is one of interpenetration and mutual indwelling. Thus, each in the Godhead interpenetrates and coinheres the others, that is, each is permanently one with the others. Jamieson, Fausset and Brown’s commentary speaks of John 14:10 as a “…Mutual Inbeing of the Father and the Son….” This mutual inbeing and interpenetration reveals the fact that the Triune God is inseparably and uniquely one and also preserves the distinction within the Godhead of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Augustine in the fifth century summarized this truth in his classic work, On The Trinity (Book VI:10:12): “…in that highest Trinity one is as much as the Three together, nor are two anything more than one. And They are infinite in themselves. So both each are in each, and all in each, and each in all, and all in all, and all are one.”

This mutual interpenetration within the Godhead is further revealed by the Lord in John 16:13-15: “…the Spirit…shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak…He shall glorify me: for he shall take of [ek, out of] mine, and shall declare it unto you. All things whatsoever the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he taketh of [ek, out of] mine, and shall declare it unto you.” These verses unveil the inner relationship of interpenetration that exists between the Father, Son, and Spirit.

Firstly, the Spirit’s speaking is “not…from himself….” That is, the speaking source of the Spirit within the Godhead is from the Son and the Father, which reveals the interpenetration of the Three. Secondly, the Spirit’s taking is described as “he shall take of [out of] mine….” That is, the taking position of the Spirit within the Godhead is out of the Son and the Father, which reveals the interpenetration of the Three. Thirdly, the interpenetration of the Father, Son, and Spirit is also revealed by the inner nature of the Spirit’s hearing. The Lord’s words concerning the Spirit, “What things soever he shall hear …” refer to a hearing within the Godhead. Martin Luther remarks on the nature of the Spirit’s hearing in John 16:13: “Here faith must disregard all creatures and must not concentrate on physical…listening, it must conceive of this as… listening inherent in the essence of the Godhead” (Luther’s Works, Vol. 24, p. 364). The esteemed New Testament commentator, Dr. H. A. W. Meyer also comments on the nature of the Spirit’s hearing in John 16:13:

The Spirit, however, hears from God not externally as a Subject separated from God, but (comp. 1 Cor. 2:11) through an interna acceptio [internal receiving]; for He is in God, and proceeds from Him, [John] 15:26″ (Critical and Exegetical Handbook of the Gospel of John, Vol. II, p. 268).

The interpenetration Scriptures reveal the inner relationship of oneness which exists within the Triune God. They also indicate a distinction of the Father, Son, and Spirit; but this distinction does not involve separation in the Godhead. It is an interpenetration where the Father, Son, and Spirit so indissolubly exist in each other that in their expression they can be identified.

2. The Identification Scriptures

This type of Scripture reveals the outward expression of the oneness of the Triune God by making an identification of the Son with the Father and the Lord with the Spirit. Examples are found in Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9-10; 10:28-30, 38 and 2 Corinthians 3:17.

a) Isaiah 9:6 identifies the Son with the Father: “…a son is given…and his name shall be called…Everlasting Father….” This type of Scripture revealing One being Another must be understood with the type of Scripture revealing the Three mutually interpenetrating each other, that is, what unlocks the understanding of Isaiah’s utterance of the Son being called the Everlasting Father is Jesus’ utterance in John 14:10: “…I am in the Father and the Father in me….” One utterance identifies the Son with the Father; the other reveals the mutual indwelling or interpenetration of the Son and the Father. In other words, the interpenetration Scriptures view the oneness of the Triune God from the angle of their inner existence, and the identification Scriptures view the same oneness from the angle of their outward expression. Both utterances are God’s word and must be taken together.

b) John 14:9-10 also identifies the Son with the Father and is spoken by the Lord Himself: “Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and dost thou not know me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father….” However, immediately following His statement in verse 9 identifying Himself with the Father, the Lord explains in verse 10 the exact sense in which this is to be understood: “Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me…?” Therefore, it is in the sense of the interpenetration of the Son and the Father that we understand the identification of each with the other. The Father and the Son are so one by a living mutual interpenetration and inter-existence in each other that their expression is identical.

c) John 10:28-30, 38 are another group of Scriptures that unfolds the significance of the identification of the Son with the Father. The Lord says, “…they shall never perish, and no one shall snatch them out of my hand [Christ’s]…and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one…. that ye may know and understand that the father is in me, and I in the Father.” The Lord’s hand (v. 28) and the Father’s hand (v. 29) are identified. In other words to be in “…my hand…” is identical to being in “…the Father’s hand.” This identification of the hand is made in relationship to the power of the Son and the Father to keep the sheep.

The identification of the “Son’s hand” being the “Father’s hand” and vice versa is revealed in verse 30 to be an identification of oneness: “I and the Father are one.” This is identification revealing oneness, not identification destroying, or nullifying, the distinction of Father, Son, and Spirit. John 10:30 makes it clear that “I” and “the Father” exist at the same time, yet they are one (not singular, “is one”).

The identification of oneness made in John 10:28-30 is revealed in John 10:38 to be a oneness consisting of a mutual interpenetration: “…that ye may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” John Albert Bengel, in his classic New Testament Word Studies, makes the same observation on John 10:30 and 38 by saying: “These two sentences, I and the Father are one, and, the Father in me and I in the Father, mutually explain one another.” Thus, the Scriptures identifying the Son with the Father as in Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9, and John 10:28-30 must be interpreted in the light of oneness and mutual interpenetration in the Godhead.

d) Second Corinthians 3:17 makes an identification of the Lord with the Spirit: “Now the Lord is the Spirit….” This identification must also be understood with the type of Scripture found in John 16:13-15 revealing the interpenetration within the Godhead. What unlocks the meaning of Paul’s utterance of the Lord being identified with the Spirit is Jesus’ utterance in John 16:14: “He [the Spirit] shall glorify me: for he shall take of [out of] mine, and shall declare it unto you.” Paul identifies the Lord with the Spirit because they inseparably interpenetrate each other as the one God.

These words of identification express the ineffable oneness of the Triune God. It is an identification of oneness rather than an identification that obliterates the eternal distinctions of the Father, Son, and Spirit. Their oneness is so complete that they can be inseparably identified in expression. This is the highest type of oneness revealed to man.

3. The Interchangeable Scriptures

This type of Scripture reveals the one operation or function of the Triune God within man’s experience. This one operation is seen in several passages where “the Father,” “the Spirit of the Father,” “the Lord,” “Christ,” and the “Holy Spirit” are used quite interchangeably in reference to the believer’s experience.

a) The fact that all Three in the Godhead operate as One in man’s experience can be seen by comparing Matthew 10:20, Mark 13:11, and Luke 21:15. Each Gospel reveals One of the Three doing exactly the same thing under the same set of circumstances.

Concerning those brought before the councils and synagogues Matthew 10:20 says, “For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father….” Then, Mark 13:11 (comp. Luke 12:12) says, “…for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Spirit.” And again Luke 21:15 says, “For I [Christ] will give you a mouth and wisdom…” Thus, the Spirit of the Father, the Holy Spirit, and Christ Himself are used interchangeably in relation to the same experience of the believer. The operation of One is interchangeably ascribed to Another, because the Father, Son, and Spirit function as One within the inseparable oneness of the Godhead.

b) John 14:17-18 also reveals how the Lord and the Spirit are used interchangeably in their coming to the disciples: “Even the Spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive; for it beholdeth him not, neither knoweth him: ye know him; for he abideth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you desolate (orphans): I come unto you.” When the Spirit comes to the disciples, the Lord Himself also comes to them, that is, the “him” and the “he” (the Spirit) in verse 17 become the “I” (Christ) in verse 18. The coming of the Spirit is the coming of Christ. In the experience of the disciples there is no separation between the Lord and the Spirit. They are interchangeably used in the disciples’ experience so that the coming of One is the coming of the Other.

The interchangeable Scriptures reveal that in man’s experience the Father, Son, and Spirit operate as one. R. C. Moberly in his classic work, Atonement and Personality (pp.168-169) also comments on this one function and operation of the Godhead in the believer’s experience:

Observe, it is not for an instant that the disciples are to have the presence of the Spirit instead of having the presence of the Son. But to have the Spirit is to have the Son. Again it is not for an instant that this is a sort of indirect or secondary mode of having the presence of the Son; as we, in our bodily existence in space and time, are forced into current phrases which make “presence in the spirit” a sort of apology or substitute (and sometimes a very lame one) for “reality” of presence: quite the contrary: this is the only mode of presence which could be quite absolutely direct, and primary, and real. Any presence of the Son other than this; any presence of the Son other than as Spirit, within, and as, ourselves, characterizing and constituting the very reality of what we ourselves are; would be, by comparison, remote, ineffective, unreal; nay, it would be, after all, a form of absence, a substitute for the presence which alone can be called true or real.

There are not, then, three separate spheres of spiritual operation upon us, which the good theologian is to be careful to demarcate exactly, and not confound: the sphere of the operation of the Father, and the sphere of the operation of the Son, and the sphere of the operation of the Holy Ghost. The operation is the operation of One God, Father at once and Son: and both in and through Spirit.

By examining the Scriptures that reveal the oneness of the Triune God, we see there are three aspects of their oneness. As to their inner existence, they interpenetrate each other; as to their outward expression, they are identical; as to their operation in man’s experience, they are one. These three types of Scripture reveal the oneness of our Triune (Three-One) God.

This article concludes the present series.

A Cheerful Defense Concerning the Triune God

The material on this page was written in the 1970s to respond to the criticisms of Walter Martin, founder of the Christian Research Institute (CRI) and the original “Bible Answer Man.” CRI has since withdrawn those criticisms and reversed its earlier conclusions (see “A Brief History of the Relationship between the Local Churches and the Christian Research Institute”). The text of this article is published here for the historical record, for the important points of truth it addresses, and because CRI’s criticisms, although withdrawn, are still repeated by others.

From: Answers to the Bible Answer Man – Appendix

February 25

A booklet has recently been published by the Christian Research Institute entitled The Teachings of Witness Lee and the local churches. This booklet states that “The local church doctrine of God…is contrary to the Word of God…. It must be rejected by Christians as heretical” (pp. 8-9). We in the local churches respond to this charge with the attitude and testimony expressed by the Apostle Paul under similar circumstances, “…I cheerfully make my defense…. Neither can they prove to thee the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the Way which they call a sect, so serve I the God of our fathers, believing all things which are according to the law, and which are written in the prophets…” (Acts 24:10, 13-14, ASV).

In accordance with Paul’s attitude we in the local churches likewise cheerfully take the opportunity to scripturally defend our belief and experience of the Triune God. We also would express our judgment that the booklet published by Christian Research Institute does not prove any of its accusations that we teach the trinitarian heresies of “successive modalism” and so-called “static modalism.” It only exposes that the authors are deficient in four areas:

  1. They lack revelation concerning all the Scriptures revealing the Triune God.
  2. They lack knowledge concerning the history and meaning of modalism.
  3. They demonstrate repeatedly that they have not studied all the materials written by Witness Lee and the local churches.
  4. They lack ability to interpret and apply our writings according to the standards of honest scholarship.

Eventually, what is labeled as heretical by the Christian Research Institute is proven to be in fact a testimony to…all things …which are written…” in the Bible concerning the revelation of the Triune God.

We in the local churches would request that the Christian Research Institute carefully consider our cheerful defense concerning the Triune God. Firstly, in contrast to the booklet’s traditional and mere doctrinal expressions, we hold to biblical terminology and the language of experience. Secondly, in contrast to the accusation that we teach “successive modalism,” we believe in the historical revelation of the Triune God. Thirdly, in contrast to the charge that we teach so-called “static modalism,” we acknowledge the biblical revelation of the relationship within the Triune God.

1. Biblical Terminology and the Language of Experience

The Triune God is revealed in the Bible with language selected by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, our understanding and utterance of the Triune God should remain within the boundaries of biblical terminology. In contrast to the terminology of theology, councils, and creeds, biblical terminology is God’s own expression and revelation of Himself in His Word; hence biblical terminology is the highest available revelation of the Triune God. To remain biblical in our understanding, utterance, and experience concerning the Triune God, we must speak the way the Bible speaks. The particular way the Scripture speaks of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit not only reveals the fact that God is triune, but also conveys the exact sense and meaning of man’s experience of Him.

It is also vital to realize that the biblical revelation of the Triune God came through the language of experience. Therefore, the expression of the revelation bears the mark of experience rather than of a clear mental apprehension of a doctrine of the Trinity. Since the revelation of the Triune God was given to experience, then it follows that the proper understanding of the Triune God must be received in the realm and context of experience. In other words, the revelation of the Triune God was poured into the mold of experience. Therefore, we must safeguard this revelation by keeping it in the language of experience.

The language of experience concerning the Triune God has always troubled the theological mind that likes to put the Father, Son, and Spirit into neat creedal categories. Nevertheless, Paul’s experiential utterances concerning the Three of the Godhead will always stand as a constant witness to the limitation of the human mind in fully comprehending the Triune God. However, it should be made clear that although the understanding is limited, the reality of the experience of the Triune God is in no way hindered. In fact, the terminology of the Triune God found in the Bible exactly fits and expresses the genuine experience of the Father, Son, and Spirit.

A. Lewis Humphries’ outstanding book, The Holy Spirit in Faith and Experience (p. 219) points out this same characteristic in the New Testament revelation of the Triune God:

One thing which close study of the New Testament makes clear to us is that its ideas and, therefore, its terms were framed in an atmosphere not of speculation but of experience. The angle from which all truth is seen is that of its manifestation in life. Hence, when Paul speaks of the Spirit, it is in no world of abstract generalizations that he is moving, but simply within the confines of the immediate experience of the Church. In one word, it is the Christian experience of the Spirit which he and other New Testament writers seek to formulate.

2. The Historical Revelation of the Triune God

The scriptural understanding of the Triune God is derived from the facts of revelation as they are found in the Bible. These facts not only reveal the relationship that exists within the Godhead, but also reveal the Triune God in the process of accomplishing His purpose for man. Franz Delitzsch comments on this point: “The trinitarian conception of God is not a product of philosophical speculation, but the reflex, not only of New Testament, but also even of the Old Testament facts of revelation” (Old Testament History of Redemption, p. 178).

It is in the historical revelation of the Triune God that we see the practical purpose of His Triune Being. That is, as the Father, Son, and Spirit are progressively revealed from Genesis to Revelation, we discover that the Triune God is working out His economy and plan in relationship to man. In fact, the revelation of the Triune God takes place in the context of His purpose for man. Therefore, the scriptural understanding of the Triune God must be from the perspective of His relationship to man. It is as God works out His plan of creation, incarnation, redemption, in-dwelling, sanctification, and glorification that He is unveiled as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Triune God is revealed in the Bible not for the purpose of speculative theology but in the context of the actual experience of accomplishing His eternal purpose with man.

The aspect of the economy of the Triune God in His historical revelation is found from Genesis to Revelation. Genesis 1:26-27 reveals the Triune God in the context of the creation of man in His own image and likeness. John’s Gospel reveals the Triune God in His accomplishment of redemption (especially in John 1:1-2, 14; 7:37-39; chapters 14-17; 20:22). Matthew 28:19 reveals the Triune God in the context of applying the benefits of redemption to the nations by baptizing them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Romans 8:9-11 and Galatians 4:6 reveal the Triune God in relationship to His indwelling in man in order to give life to him. Second Corinthians 13:14 reveals the Triune God in the realm of fellowship and enjoyment. First Peter 1:2 reveals the Triune God in the context of His work of sanctification. Revelation 21:22-23 and 22:1-5 reveal the Triune God in His ultimate glorification in the New Jerusalem.

The scriptural revelation of the Trinity is rooted in the historical manifestation of Father, Son, and Spirit doing something for man and in man. This aspect of the revelation of the Triune God is not to be understood as the successive modalism taught by the heretic Sabellius in the third century which denied the eternal distinctions in the Godhead. Rather, it is the successive steps of the Triune God’s historical revelation related to His plan of dispensing Himself into man for the fulfillment of His eternal purpose.

3. The Relationship within the Triune God

As the Scriptures reveal the outward historical manifestation of the Father, Son, and Spirit, we also find in the Bible a relationship existing within the Triune God. This relationship shows that God is both Three and One at the same time, and also manifests the inseparable oneness of the Father, Son, and Spirit. This relationship within the Triune God is found in two types of Scriptures.

The first type of Scripture which reveals the oneness of the Triune God is the kind which expresses the inner relationship existing between the Father, Son, and Spirit. This relationship is one of a mutual interpenetration and coinherence of each with the other. That is, the Father, Son, and Spirit inseparably and mutually indwell each other. The type of Scripture that reveals this mutual interpenetration discloses something of the nature of the oneness existing within the Godhead.

The second type of Scripture which reveals the oneness of the Triune God is the kind which is related to the outward expression and function of the Triune God, especially in connection with man’s subjective experience of Him. The relationship between the Father, Son, and Spirit in this type of Scripture is one of identification. That is, the oneness of the Triune God is of such a nature that the Father, Son, and Spirit are identified in expression and function. This identification is seen in the Scriptures where it specifically states that One is Another, and also where the Three are used interchangeably in relationship to man’s experience. These Scriptures revealing the identification of the Three also disclose something of the nature of the oneness existing within the Godhead.

Both types of Scripture concerning the interpenetration and identification of the Three testify to oneness, reveal oneness, and express oneness. However, this oneness of the Three does not nullify their distinction as Father, Son, and Spirit. On the contrary, God is eternally both Three and One at the same time. The interpenetration Scriptures strongly indicate the oneness of an indivisible relationship between them and thus preserve their distinction without separation. Also the identification Scriptures are not to be taken with the loss of distinction between the Three, but rather they reveal the height of their oneness. The distinction in the Godhead is a distinction within the oneness and of the oneness, not a distinction which qualifies oneness, or usurps the place of it, or destroys it. Again, both types of Scripture, interpenetration and identification, manifest the oneness of our one God.

The charge that Witness Lee and the local churches teach a so-called static modalism is fully refuted by our belief in the interpenetration and identification Scriptures. Next week’s article will continue our cheerful defense of the Triune God by examining in detail the two types of Scripture which reveal the oneness of the Triune God.

False Teachings Exposed

The material on this page was written in the 1970s to respond to the criticisms of Walter Martin, founder of the Christian Research Institute (CRI) and the original “Bible Answer Man.” CRI has since withdrawn those criticisms and reversed its earlier conclusions (see “A Brief History of the Relationship between the Local Churches and the Christian Research Institute”). The text of this article is published here for the historical record, for the important points of truth it addresses, and because CRI’s criticisms, although withdrawn, are still repeated by others.

From: Answers to the Bible Answer Man – Appendix

February 11 & 18

The Bible Answer Man Continues to Attack

On October 2, 1977, the Director of the Christian Research Institute launched a public attack on Witness Lee and the local churches before an audience of 4,000 people. Since that time spokesmen for Witness Lee and the local churches have answered the charges of the Bible Answer Man week by week in print here in The Register. The Bible Answer Man has accused us of attacking him personally and of continuing an argument which he stated publicly he wished to terminate. However, at the same time he has stated publicly that he does not wish to pursue further the issue with the local churches, he and his Research Institute have prepared and published a pamphlet against Witness Lee and the local churches entitled The Teachings of Witness Lee and the local church. This booklet has been advertised on the Bible Answer Man’s radio program and is now being sold to the public.

For the last four months the local churches have published week after week articles of sufficient length and depth to leave no serious reader in doubt concerning our doctrine and experience. Yet the Bible Answer Man’s Institute has published a twenty-one page pamphlet which largely disregards all that we have written in the last four months. This places a big question mark on his integrity and honesty in pursuing the facts. He and his Institute simply make charges, without taking into account what we ourselves have said. They dig up the same old arguments and hash them over again. Apparently they do not wish to carry on a meaningful dialogue. They simply wish to repeat their accusations.

The Elephant Labored and Brought Forth a Mouse

Announcement of this forthcoming booklet has been made week after week after week by the Bible Answer Man on his radio program. Finally it has been completed. Having been in preparation for such a long time, and having been prepared by a research institute, we in the local churches waited with some anticipation, expecting a detailed and articulate piece of research in answer to our writings. But to our great dismay, what has been produced is a twenty-one page pamphlet including three pages of footnotes, proofread superficially and not even typeset. When one considers this product in the light of the fact that the Bible Answer Man and his Institute project themselves to the public as the authorities on the Bible and on orthodoxy, one can only shake his head and conclude that the elephant has labored and brought forth a mouse.

False Teachings of the Bible Answer Man

Page two of his pamphlet has a paragraph entitled “The Teachings of the local church Compared with Scripture.” Then the authors of the pamphlet, three of the Bible Answer Man’s research staff, state their intention to compare the teachings of the local church with the Bible. But the peculiar thing is this: as one reads this pamphlet, he realizes that there is in fact very little comparing with the Bible. There is much comparison with the systematic theologies of various theologians, quotations from historians, references to the councils and creeds of the early centuries, and quotations of various authors. The stated intention of the authors is to compare the teachings of Witness Lee and the local churches with the Scriptures. But the accomplishment of this intention is very difficult to locate in this book. Not only that, there are some doctrines and teachings of the Bible Answer Man’s associates shining through these pages which are definitely not in accord with the Bible. Since it is their stated intention to compare all teachings with the Bible, I would like to survey several of their teachings which show up in this pamphlet and point out their contradiction with the Word of God.

1. On Division

In paragraph one, page two, the Answer Man’s research personnel state:

It is important to understand first the attitude of the local church toward all the denominations, both Catholic and Protestant, so that we will see just how important these teachings are. Witness Lee writes, “Do not try to be neutral. Do not try to reconcile them…. You know the denominations are wrong, yet you still remain because you are afraid of what others will say.” For Lee and the local church, then, all denominations are wrong.

Apparently, for the Bible Answer Man and his research personnel, denominations are not wrong. Since they are accusing Witness Lee and the local churches of saying the denominations are wrong, they imply by their accusation that they consider denominations to be right. But how does this compare with the Word of God? Since they are so careful to insist that all teachings be compared with God’s Word, let us compare their view of denominations with the Bible.

Let me first point out that the Bible recognizes nothing of denominations. A denomination is a division in the Body of Christ, called after the name of the man whom a certain group of Christians follow, or after a practice which they emphasize. Baptists are denominated around the practice of baptism, while Lutherans are denominated around the person of Luther. In the Bible, there is no such thing as a denominated church. In Jerusalem, there was not a Baptist church: there was simply the church in Jerusalem (Acts 8:1). In Corinth there was not a Pauline church: there was simply “the church of God which is in Corinth.” In Galatians 5:20 factions or sects are listed as works of the flesh along with idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, and jealousy. When the Christians in the church in Corinth began to divide on the basis of their preference for certain leaders, Paul asked them, “Has Christ been divided?” (1 Cor. 1:13, NASV). By attacking Witness Lee for saying denominations are wrong, the research personnel of the Bible Answer Man leave no doubt that in their view denominations are sound. They, therefore, not only agree with the divided state of Christendom, but by their agreement help perpetuate divisions in the Body of Christ, divisions which are abhorrent to God. According to the Greek, Romans 16:17 exhorts us to “watch those who make the divisions and the offenses contrary to the teaching which you learned and turn away from them.” Anyone, even the personnel of the Christian Research Institute, who perpetuates and teaches that division in the Body of Christ is right should be watched and turned away from. This is the clear teaching of the Bible.

2. On God

In a section of their pamphlet entitled “The Nature of God,” the Research Institute authors state:

The doctrine of the Trinity is usually stated essentially as: “In the nature of the one eternal God, there are three eternally distinct Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. All three are the same God, all fully God, yet the Father is neither the Son nor the Spirit, the Son is neither the Father nor the Spirit, and the Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son” (p. 2).

This is not a quotation from the Bible.

Since the Institute authors were so desirous of comparing all things with the Scriptures, why did they start out with a statement concerning the doctrine of the Trinity which is quoted from a book on systematic theology? After expressing their definition of the Trinity, the research authors chide us by saying, “The local church however, teaches contrary to this.” The fact is that such a statement concerning the Trinity cannot be found in the Bible. That is, no doubt, the reason they did not quote from the Bible. This tritheistic view of the Trinity can be found only in theology books, but not in the Bible. Not only can such a view of God not be found in the Bible; their tritheism is absolutely contrary to the Bible. It denies the interpenetration of the three of the Godhead as presented by the Word of God in such passages as: Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9-10, and 2 Corinthians 3:17. J. Rodman Williams, president of the Melodyland School of Theology, has written a book entitled The Pentecostal Reality. In his book he states:

If the Scriptures, which are the Word of God, teach a doctrine of the Holy Trinity, then it is ours to attend to with profound seriousness – no matter how we may feel or think about it. Actually, however, there is no doctrine of the Trinity in the Bible (p. 100).

This is not to say that there is nothing in the Bible concerning the Triune God. Surely Dr. Williams does not believe that, and neither do we. The Bible is full of references to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. But there is no such doctrine of the Trinity there as the Research Institute would have us believe, so when we in the local churches have our view of God examined, we cannot tolerate having it compared to a definition by some theologian. We insist that it be compared with the Word of God.

3. On the Spirit

The Institute authors quote Witness Lee disdainfully as saying: “…the Son became the Spirit for us to drink in as the water of life…” (p. 4). Would the researchers tell us that they do not believe this? How then do they explain John 7:37-39? The literal translation of those verses from the Greek reads as follows:

Now in the last day, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out saying: If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. The one believing in Me, as the Scripture said, out of his belly will flow rivers of living water. But this He said concerning the Spirit whom the ones believing into Him were about to receive; for the Spirit was not yet, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

These verses reveal six clear facts:

  1. Jesus said the thirsty should come to Him to drink.
  2. Whoever actively, consistently, and persistently believes into Jesus, out of his being will flow rivers of living water.
  3. But all of this He said concerning the Spirit:
    1. To come to Him is to come to the Spirit.
    2. To drink of Him is to drink of the Spirit.
    3. The living water flowing out is also the Spirit.
  4. In verse 37 Jesus said: Come to Me and drink.
  5. But in verse 39 John interprets the Lord’s words by saying: This He [Jesus] said concerning the Spirit.
  6. John further interpreted:
    1. Those who believe into Jesus will receive the Spirit.
    2. But this had not happened yet, because the Spirit in His new manifestation as the Spirit of the glorified Jesus “was not yet, because Jesus was not yet glorified.”

Thus it is clear from these verses as Witness Lee says: The Son became the Spirit for us to drink in as the water of life. The associates of the Bible Answer Man are apparently unfamiliar with this section of the Word of God.

4. On the Body

Now we come to perhaps the most astounding and appalling ignorance imaginable concerning the Word of God. The associates of the Bible Answer Man state: “Christ is…the One preeminent over, but not a part of, the Church.” They state that He is “the Head of the Body,” only in a “metaphorical” sense, and that “He is not the Body” at all (p. 8). This is surely not an accurate way to employ metaphor or allegory in interpreting the Bible. The Bible says clearly that the church is “His body” (Eph. 1:23). Paul doesn’t say that this is a figure of speech; he presents it as a fact. Colossians 1:18 says: “He is also head of the body, the church.” First Corinthians 12:12 says: “For even as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body, though they are many, are one body, so also is Christ.” If these verses from the Bible cannot be taken at face value, then pray tell what can? The fact is that, when Jesus was on the earth as an individual, He had an individual, physical body in which to carry out His mission. But since His death and resurrection He resides in the many members who compose His church, and this many-membered church is now His Body on earth. The fact that the Bible Answer Man and his associates do not see this proves that they are woefully ignorant of the Bible and that they have an abysmal lack of experience of the Body of Christ.

5. On Practical Oneness

The representatives of the Bible Answer Man also do not believe in the practical expression of oneness of the Body revealed in the Scriptures. They do not believe “that there is only one true representative of the Body of Christ in any city” (p. 10). They believe the Bible teaches that there were a multiple number of churches in any given city in the Bible and since the Bible. They give as an example Paul’s epistle to the Romans, where they state that “Paul wrote to [one] church in Rome,” but asked that church to greet another church in Rome. I would like to ask the Bible Answer Man and his associates to point out where it states in Paul’s letter to the Romans that he wrote to one church in that city and asked that church to greet another church in the same city. Here the authors of the pamphlet against Witness Lee and the local churches have completely left the Word of God and sallied into their imagination. When interpreting the Bible, we must be careful not to read into it our own preferences and prejudices. We must deal with it in a very clear way.

Concerning the matter of the church in the book of Romans:

  1. Nowhere in the letter to the Romans does Paul mention “a church in Rome.”
  2. Nowhere in the book of Romans is a greeting given to two churches in the city of Rome.
  3. Only one greeting is implied or expressed to any church in the city of Rome. This is recorded in Romans 16:5: “Greet the church that is in their house.” “Their house” is the house of Prisca and Aquila, Paul’s fellow-workers mentioned in verse three. This is the only greeting to the church in Rome mentioned in this entire epistle. We should not be deceived by people who say that Paul wrote to one church in Rome telling that church to greet another church in Rome. This is surely a false interpretation.

There is no example in the entire Bible of more than one church in a city. Even the church in Jerusalem, which according to Acts 21:20 had tens of thousands of believers in it, still was only one church, “the church which was at Jerusalem” (Acts 8:1), with one eldership (Acts 21:18). No doubt the believers in Jerusalem, in such a large church, met in many different houses (Acts 2:46; 5:42), but it was still one church under one administration.

6. On the Bible

On page 15 of their pamphlet our critics state:

There is nothing which should not be tested in relation to any religious belief. We encourage members of the local church to be like the noble Bereans, who “received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so” (Acts 17:11). Here Luke shows that the Bereans were “noble” because they tested even the Gospel by the Scriptures, as it was preached by Paul. Certainly if the Bereans were “noble” for testing the preaching of Paul by Scripture, members and those interested in the local church should continually test the teachings of Mr. Lee also.

Their interpretation of this verse shows how their minds turn the meaning of the Scriptures into something the Scriptures do not say. They say: “The Bereans were ‘noble’ because they tested” by the Scriptures even what Paul said. But the Bible says they were noble because “they received the Word with great eagerness.” The point in this passage is that, when Paul came to Berea, many of the vicious influences which he had so often encountered in other places were absent. The Bereans received the Word of God with all eagerness, poring over the Scriptures day after day, finding out at first hand “whether these things were so.” Richard Lenski, in his commentary on the book of Acts, says regarding this verse:

Here there was no initial blind, unreasoned hostility that sought only objections no matter what kind. Here there was no cold indifference that is careless as to whether “these things” were really true or not…Time, study, search, [and] discussion were fully devoted to the Scriptures and to finding out what they contained in regard to this new teaching (pp. 700-701).

This is the point of Acts 17:11, and this is what is so lacking today. I am sorry that the Bible Answer Man and his staff have not found it within themselves to be able to receive the Word that is coming forth today. I am sorry that they are unable to exhibit the same nobility exhibited by the Bereans in receiving the Word of God with great eagerness. They test Witness Lee’s teaching by their preconceived concepts, not by the Bible. They pick up a line here and a line there from his books, twisting his words and comparing his teachings with isolated Bible verses and theological books. They surely do not have the same spirit as the “noble” Bereans.

7. On the Flesh

Our critics state on page 17 of their pamphlet that it “is contrary to Scripture” to say that man has become “the manifestation of Satan.” I wonder then how they interpret Matthew 16:23 where Jesus “turned and said to Peter, ‘Get behind Me, Satan!'” Surely in that passage Jesus considered Peter to be a manifestation of Satan. Then the authors of the pamphlet go on to say that Paul teaches that the flesh is “morally neutral” (p. 17). But this doesn’t square with Romans 8:3 where Paul says, “God sending His own Son in the likeness of the flesh of sin and for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh” (NASV, margin). Here Paul certainly doesn’t regard the flesh as “morally neutral.” He calls it the flesh of sin and then speaks of sin in the flesh. But our critics are not through yet. They proceed to state that the flesh is not only “morally neutral” but also “generally good.” In this case, how can we reconcile such “generally good” flesh with Galatians 5:19 and 20? “Now the deeds of the flesh are manifest which are: fornication, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, divisions, envyings, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these” (Gk.). And what about Romans 7:18 where Paul says: “I know that in my flesh dwelleth no good thing”? The flesh the Bible speaks of produces things like fornication, idolatry and all the other evil things Paul mentions. Surely the Bible Answer Man’s associates have a peculiar set of preconceived ideas, which enables them to derive from the Bible the thought that the corrupt flesh of man is “morally neutral” and “generally good.”

8. On the Church as the Manifestation of God

Another peculiar thought in their pamphlet against Witness Lee and the local churches is expressed as follows: “[To say] the church itself is God manifest in the flesh…is contrary to the Word of God” (p. 18). I would like to ask our critics the question: If the church is not the manifestation of God, what is it the manifestation of? Surely the individual body of Christ manifested forth God. When Christ was on the earth, He was the manifestation of the Father. John 1:14 says clearly: “And the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and reality” (Gk.). According to this verse, the Lord’s body was a tabernacle in which the glory of God was manifested. Now according to Ephesians 1:22-23 the church today is His Body. There is no doubt that on the earth today, in the genuine church, God is manifesting His glory in a corporate tabernacle. Can anyone who reads the book of Acts doubt that the church there was the manifestation of God in the flesh? In 1 Corinthians 12:7 Paul speaks of “the manifestation of the Spirit,” but when one reads the rest of the chapter, he finds that this manifestation of the Spirit is within the church which is Christ’s Body, for the word body is mentioned at least fifteen times in this chapter. In 1 Corinthians 14:24-25, speaking of the church meetings, Paul says:

But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an ungifted man enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all; the secrets of his heart are disclosed; and so he will fall on his face and worship God, declaring that God is certainly among you.

According to Paul, the church meetings should be a manifestation of God. Anyone coming in, even a stranger, ought to be impressed that what is manifested here in this meeting is God. How then can the Bible Answer Man’s helpers say that according to the Word of God the church is not God manifested in the flesh? Their standard of interpretation is peculiar to say the least, for it somehow enables them to derive interpretations from the Bible which are exactly opposite to what the Bible says.

More to Come

In the weeks ahead we in the local churches will respond to the slanderous and unfounded accusations expressed in the pamphlet written and distributed by the Christian Research Institute. And in doing so we shall pursue precisely the standard which they themselves have set: “to compare everything with the Word of God.”

What is God’s Recovery?

The material on this page was written in the 1970s to respond to the criticisms of Walter Martin, founder of the Christian Research Institute (CRI) and the original “Bible Answer Man.” CRI has since withdrawn those criticisms and reversed its earlier conclusions (see “A Brief History of the Relationship between the Local Churches and the Christian Research Institute”). The text of this article is published here for the historical record, for the important points of truth it addresses, and because CRI’s criticisms, although withdrawn, are still repeated by others.

From: Answers to the Bible Answer Man – Appendix

February 4

In previous articles we have seen the degradation of the historic church. Because the historic church has become so degraded and cannot possibly fulfill God’s eternal purpose, there is the need for the recovery of the church. It is the purpose of this article to clarify the meaning of the word recovery and to give testimony to what the Lord’s recovery is today.

The Definition of Recovery

The word “recover” means to obtain again something that has been lost, or to return something to a normal condition. In order for something to be recovered, it must have already been in existence and in a particular condition. When, after it has been lost or damaged, it is returned to its former condition, it is said to be recovered. The noun “recovery” means the restoration or return to a normal condition after a damage or loss has been incurred. To say that God is recovering certain matters means that through the course of church history they have been lost, misused, or corrupted and that God is restoring them to their original state or condition. Simply put, in the eyes of God, recovery means to bring something back to its original condition.

The Principle of Recovery

The principle of recovery is seen in Matthew 19:3-8. When the Pharisees asked the Lord Jesus about divorce, He said that at the beginning God made them male and female and that a man would leave his father and mother, be joined to his wife, and that the two would become one flesh. The Lord further pointed out that what God had joined together man should not put asunder. The Pharisees then inquired why Moses allowed a man to give a writing of divorce and put his wife away. To this, the Lord replied, “Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.” Notice the phrases “at the beginning” and “from the beginning.” These phrases imply that the Lord was standing with what God had ordained in the beginning and that He was seeking to bring the present situation regarding marriage back to what it was in the beginning. This is recovery. Because the stubborn ones had become hard of heart, Moses allowed them to put away their wives by writing a bill of divorce. But this was not God’s intention in the beginning.

In order for God to have His recovery, certain of His people must have a heart to care for His intention from the beginning. If we are hard of heart, God may permit us to do certain things not in keeping with His original intention. But the hard of heart cannot fulfill God’s purpose, for they care only for the present situation or for the traditional practice, not for God’s original design. Any who have been used by the Lord in His recovery in the past have been those who cared, not for the present state of things, but for God’s standard as revealed in His Word.

The Recovery Related to God’s Purpose

The recovery is related to God’s purpose. God’s eternal purpose is that man should be a corporate entity to express Him with His image and to represent Him with His dominion. In our age the corporate entity intended to fulfill this purpose is the church. Because man fell, he needed to be redeemed. God’s redemption is actually an act of recovery because it restores man to God’s original intention, enabling him once again to fulfill God’s purpose. As far as God is concerned, the goal of redemption is not heaven for the believers when they die; it is the fulfillment of His purpose.

Because the church has become degraded through the many centuries of its history, it needs to be restored to God’s original intention. There are many Christians, however, who disagree with this. They believe that the practice of the church as revealed in the New Testament is merely a historical antecedent, not a norm for church practice in the present day. However, there are a minority of Christians who have seen that the New Testament revelation of the church is not only historical, but also normative, that is, it is intended to govern the practice of the church life in this generation. Regarding the church, God has not left us to our own opinion. His way is made known in His Word. Just as the revelation of the Scripture is normative concerning the gospel, salvation, and the proper Christian life, so it is also with the church. We praise the Lord that Martin Luther stood with the Scriptures, not with the historical church, regarding justification by faith, paving the way for generations to follow to have a clear understanding of biblical requirements for salvation. Likewise, we are thankful for those who have stood with the Scriptures, not with the tradition of the historic church. They have paved the way for us to have in our time the practical experience of the church life according to God’s revelation.

The Role of the Church

God’s recovery, particularly His recovery of the church, is not suited for man’s convenience; it is to meet God’s need. Some may be offended to hear that God has a need. But as He works in space and in time for the fulfillment of His eternal purpose, He has ordained in His immutable counsel that the church fulfill a specific role and carry out certain responsibilities. God desires to recover the earth as the scene of His expression and dominion. He intends that the church be that organism, living in the reality of the kingdom of heaven, in which God’s will can be done even as it is in heaven. The church, the miniature of the kingdom of heaven, is to prepare the way for the manifestation of the kingdom of heaven in the millennium. The church also is to carry on the work of spiritual warfare, executing Christ’s victory over Satan and all the powers of darkness. Furthermore, the church must be built up as God’s habitation and as the Bride of Christ. What a shame for the Lord Jesus to come back without a Bride prepared! The Lord will neither lower His standard for the church nor neglect His intention concerning the church. The building up of the church in this age is crucial to the fulfillment of God’s purpose; it is required for the termination of this age and the inauguration of the kingdom age. In God’s eyes, the church not only should be according to His revelation; it must be so. Hence, the recovery is of tremendous significance.

Because it is so important to God and to God’s purpose, the recovery has been opposed by Satan since its beginning at the time of the Reformation. The enemy knows that when God’s recovery has been consummated and the practical church life has been fulfilled to God’s satisfaction, he is finished. Even today, the opposition of the spiritual powers against God’s recovery is fierce.

A Picture of the Recovery

Recovery is not only a New Testament phenomenon. In the Old Testament we see recovery in the history of Israel, a recovery which is a type of what God is doing on earth today. By referring to the Old Testament type of recovery, we are not attempting to prove any doctrinal matters. Rather, we are pointing to a picture as a help to our understanding.

When the children of Israel were about to enter into the good land, the Lord commanded them through Moses not to worship at the place of their choice. Rather, they had to go to the place which the Lord their God would choose out of all their tribes to put His name there (Deut. 12). They were forbidden to do whatever was right in their own eyes. They had no right to choose the place of their corporate worship. They had to go at the appointed times and with the required offerings to the place of God’s choice. This place was Jerusalem. There in Jerusalem, on Mount Zion, the temple was built. However, due to the degradation of the children of Israel, particularly in the matter of idolatry, Jerusalem was given over to the Babylonians, the temple was destroyed, and a great many Israelites were carried away to captivity in Babylon where they remained for seventy years. During these years, Daniel stood before God for the restoration of Jerusalem, praying that the word spoken by Jeremiah the prophet would be fulfilled. In the year Daniel died, the decree was pronounced by Cyrus King of Persia that the children of Israel should return to their land and rebuild the temple. However, as the books of Ezra and Nehemiah make clear, only a remnant, a small minority, returned. Having returned to Jerusalem and having erected the altar of burnt offering, they rebuilt the temple and then the walls of the city, in spite of opposition and threats. That was the recovery of God’s house and city in the Old Testament. God has chosen Jerusalem and He would not abandon it forever. For the fulfillment of His purpose, He wanted the temple built in that city. As Jews around the world recognize even today, they have no right to build a temple at any place other than the chosen site in the city of Jerusalem.

We may apply this picture to today’s situation regarding the church. In the beginning God intended that churches be established and built in various localities. However, after the time of the Apostles, the vision of the church and the practice of the proper church life were gradually lost. Instead of proper churches, all kinds of denominations came into being. However, God has not abandoned His plan for the practical expression of the church in this age. In spite of the degradation of the historic church, He was determined to have a church to satisfy Him. Therefore, throughout the centuries since the time of Martin Luther, God, according to His way, has been carrying on His recovery. He has made certain choices regarding the church and its practice, and He intends that His will be honored and carried out in a practical way. Although the majority of His people will not return to His original intention, God will gain a minority, today’s remnant, who will be for His satisfaction. This is what is meant by recovery. God intended to have a church, the Lord Jesus accomplished everything necessary to bring it into being, and the Apostles established it according to the Lord’s command. The church became degraded and assumed a form vastly different from the Lord’s intention. Nevertheless, He is working to recover the church, to bring it out of everything abnormal back to a normal condition in His sight.

A Brief History of the Recovery

God’s recovery did not begin in the twentieth century. Although it is difficult to fix an exact date for the beginning of the recovery, it is convenient to set it at the time of the Reformation, say 1517. The recovery has gone through certain stages. In the stage of the Reformation, the truth concerning justification by faith was recovered. Furthermore, the Bible was made available in the language of the people. As the epistle to the church in Sardis makes clear (Rev. 3:1-6), the Reformation was not complete in the eyes of the Lord. Instead of thoroughly carrying out God’s intention regarding the church, it stopped short, forming the various Protestant denominations. This forced the Lord to go on. In the eighteenth century the Lord had a partial recovery of the church life in Bohemia under the leadership of Zinzendorf. But this was not adequate. Early in the nineteenth century the Lord took a major step in His recovery by raising up those commonly known as the Plymouth Brethren, under the leadership of John Nelson Darby and others. Especially at the beginning, the Brethren were absolute, coming out of the religious institutions of their day, giving up the vanities of the world, and meeting simply as brothers in the name of the Lord Jesus. The Lord blessed their gathering together in His name, especially by opening to them and recovering through them many precious truths of His Word. However, after a period of time, the Brethren also became degraded and divided because of their excessive preoccupation with the objective, doctrinal truths of the Bible. The Lord reacted to this by raising up certain ones to recover the various truths of the inner life. Among these were Jesse Penn-Lewis and Andrew Murray, who respectively saw the truth of our co-crucifixion with Christ and the matter of Christ as our life. The Lord also reacted to the degradation of the Brethren through the Pentecostal movement. In this century, in China, the Lord raised up Watchman Nee for His recovery. It was through Watchman Nee that the truth of the ground of the church and the boundary of locality was recovered. The truths of the church life were practiced throughout China and the Far East, and hundreds of local churches were raised up. The Lord’s recovery today is not something isolated from His recovery in the past. Rather, we stand upon the shoulders of all those who have gone before us, for the recovery includes all those truths recovered in previous generations.

The Recovery Today

Now we come to what is the crucial point of this article: a consideration of the recovery today. Although the items of today’s recovery are profound and far-reaching, we can nonetheless express them rather simply. Today the Lord is burdened to recover two things. The first is the enjoyment and experience of the riches of Christ, and the second is the practice of the church life. We praise the Lord for releasing the Bible, for unveiling the truth of justification by faith, for renewing the worldwide preaching of the gospel, for revealing so many precious truths of His word, and for bringing us into a proper understanding of our co-crucifixion with Christ and of Christ’s living in us. But all these precious items cannot in themselves fulfill God’s purpose. They must have a practical issue, and that issue is the church life. What the Lord is recovering today is not mainly the teaching concerning Christ or the doctrine concerning the church. Instead, He is recovering the enjoyment of the riches of Christ and the practice of the proper church life. These two matters go together, for the practical church life is the issue of the enjoyment of the riches of Christ. We in the Lord’s recovery today want to testify to all that Christ is unsearchably rich, that He is the all-inclusive One for our enjoyment. Christ is not only objective, sitting with a body of flesh and bones on the throne far away in the heavens. As the life-giving Spirit, He is also dwelling in us to be our life and our everything. He is wonderful and indescribable, and the enjoyment of His very Person is beyond imagining. However, the subtle enemy, Satan, has diverted countless Christians from Christ to many other things, even good, sound, Scriptural things. But we must be brought back to Christ Himself, and not in the way of mere doctrine, but in the way of daily, inward enjoyment. Thus, the first item of the Lord’s present recovery is the recovery of the enjoyment of the riches of Christ.

Second is the recovery of the practice of the proper church life. No mere doctrine of the church or theory of the church life can satisfy us, much less satisfy the Lord. We praise Him for the blueprint, but the blueprint is not the building itself. What God wants is not just a blueprint, but an actual building for His habitation. Therefore, He has burdened us for the practice of the church life according to His revelation, according to His blueprint. In the practice of the church life, we do not seek to perpetuate the traditions of the historic church. Rather, we seek to walk in the light of God’s revelation in the New Testament, no matter the cost. It is the Lord, not us, who requires the building up of the church in a practical way. It is the Lord, not us, who has ordained that the church be built in localities, with one church with one administration in each locality. It is the Lord, not us, who has initiated the spread of the church life throughout the earth. In spite of intense opposition, the building of the church and the spread of the church go on. In fact, the opposition aids the building and the spread. The Lord will build a church against which the gates of Hades cannot prevail. This is the desire of His heart.

In spite of the degradation of the historic church and in the midst of the confusion of today’s Christendom, the Lord is recovering the church life filled with the enjoyment of the riches of Christ. In the beginning Christ was everything to His believers, and the church life was practiced on the ground of unity in locality. Today, by His mercy and grace, the Lord is bringing us back to the beginning, back to enjoyment of Christ and to the practice of the church life. This is God’s recovery.

What Does Christ Think of the Historic Church?

The material on this page was written in the 1970s to respond to the criticisms of Walter Martin, founder of the Christian Research Institute (CRI) and the original “Bible Answer Man.” CRI has since withdrawn those criticisms and reversed its earlier conclusions (see “A Brief History of the Relationship between the Local Churches and the Christian Research Institute”). The text of this article is published here for the historical record, for the important points of truth it addresses, and because CRI’s criticisms, although withdrawn, are still repeated by others.

From: Answers to the Bible Answer Man – Appendix

January 22

In this article we shall continue our discussion of what Christ thinks of the historic church, the institutionalized church in its various forms as it has developed from the end of the apostolic era until the present. We shall consider the Lord’s word to the seven churches in Revelation 2 and 3.

A Prophetic History of the Church

The book of Revelation is prophecy, and the letters to the seven churches in Asia are prophetic. They are not only epistles directed to seven churches existing in the first century in seven actual cities in Asia; nor do they merely embody principles that can be applied to various situations throughout the course of the church on earth. These epistles are prophecies of the history of the church from the end of the apostolic era until the time of the Lord’s coming back. Regarding this, Arno C. Gaebelein says, “The seven churches represent the entire Church on earth…and the conditions of these seven churches foreshadow the different periods of the Church on earth from the Apostolic times to the ending days…” (The Revelation, p. 33). Here in Revelation 2 and 3 we are not dealing with human opinion, whether it supports historic Christendom or opposes it; we are dealing with the word of the Lord Jesus. If we do not dilute the Lord’s word, but let it speak with its own impact and power, we shall know what He thinks about the historic church.

The sequence of these seven churches matches the course of church history through the centuries. The epistle to the church in Ephesus portrays the church during the last part of the first century, at the end of the initial stage. The epistle to Smyrna prefigures the suffering church under the persecution of the Roman Empire, from the last part of the first century to the early part of the fourth century. The epistle to the church in Pergamos portrays the worldly church, the church married to the world. It covers the period from the acceptance of Christianity by Constantine in the fourth century to the establishment of the papal system in the latter part of the sixth century. The epistle to the church in Thyatira depicts the apostate church from the sixth century to the end of this age. The epistle to the church in Sardis foreshadows the churches that came out of the Reformation in the sixteenth century and that will continue until Christ’s coming back. The epistle to the church in Philadelphia portrays the recovery of the proper church life, which took place early in the nineteenth century. This epistle covers the time from the early nineteenth century to the second coming of the Lord. The epistle to the church in Laodicea prefigures the degraded recovered church, from the latter part of the nineteenth century until the Lord’s coming.

The Loss of the First Love

The history of the church from the end of the apostolic era until the Reformation is mainly a history of degradation. The Lord exposes the root of this degradation when He says, “But I have this against thee, that thou didst leave thy first love” (Rev. 2:4). Leaving the first love, or best love, for the Lord Jesus is the source of all the degradation in the following stages of the church. Concerning this loss of the first love, Gaebelein (p. 35) says:

Outwardly everything may have looked right, but the Lord, who desires the deepest affection of His people, knew that their hearts were departing from Him. This is the starting point of all church and individual failures.

It is very difficult to find much of the first love for the Lord Jesus in the historic church. However, this does not mean that there are none in the various organizations of the historic church who have a deep, sweet love for the Lord and seek an intimate heart-relationship with Him. Rather, it is simply to point out the fact that, as a whole, the historic church is not characterized by such love. On the contrary, those who love the Lord Jesus above all and who want to be poured out upon Him are often regarded as fanatics and persecuted. For example, Madame Guyon was imprisoned for loving the Lord. In various branches of the historic church today, people are encouraged to work for the Lord, but seldom are they encouraged firstly to love Him. But the Lord Jesus is not looking firstly for a church to work for Him – He wants a church to love Him.

Married to the World

Because the Lord Jesus has no word of either judgment or praise for the church in Smyrna, we may for our present purpose bypass this aspect of the historic church, the period of suffering, and proceed to the church in Pergamos, where we see delineated three prominent characteristics of the historic church. The first is that the church has now become married to the world. Prior to the time of Constantine the Great, Satan, the enemy of God, endeavored to destroy the church through persecution. Seeing that persecution was of no avail, Satan changed his strategy and, instead of instigating the world to persecute the church, he enticed the world to welcome it, luring the church into a marriage union with the Roman Empire. Symbolically the church in Pergamos prefigures the church which has entered into a marriage union with the world. Through the encouragement of Constantine and his political influence, multitudes of unbelievers were baptized into the so-called church, and the church became monstrously great. Because the church is espoused to Christ as a chaste bride, her union with the world is considered by God as spiritual fornication. In Lectures on the Book of Revelation (p.48), H. A. Ironside says:

Constantine’s patronage did what Diocletian’s persecution could not do. It corrupted the church, and she forgot her calling as a chaste virgin espoused to an absent Lord; then she gave her hand in marriage to the world that had crucified Him, thus entering into an unholy alliance of which she has never really repented.

To a very great degree, today the historic church is a church married to the world.

A second characteristic of the historic church seen in the epistle to Pergamos is the teaching of Balaam, the doctrine of the union of the church with the world. Balaam was a Gentile prophet who brought fornication and idolatry to God’s people (Num. 25:1-3; 31:16). In the worldly church, some began to teach the same things. This kind of teaching prevails today. Consider this example: a “Christian disco-night club,” recently opened in California, where young people can dance to “Christian rock” music!

Balaam is also the prototype of the hired prophet, one who preaches because he loves the wages of unrighteousness. This symbolizes the practice of hiring people to serve God and to speak for Him. Throughout the history of the historic church, the work of the clergy has been intimately related to the monetary system. Men are hired to fulfill this function, often serving the Lord not purely out of love for Him, but also out of the desire for financial advancement.

The third outstanding characteristic of the historic church seen in Pergamos is the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, something hated by the Lord. The doctrine of the Nicolaitans is the clergy-laity system, the teaching that in the church there are two classes of people: the clergy and the laity. Gaebelein (p. 38) has a clear word about this:

The best and perhaps only solution of this mysterious word is to examine its meaning. It is a Greek compound. Nikao means to have the upper hand, to domineer; laos means, the people (our English “laity”). Nicolaitans signifies “the domineers of the people.” A priestly class had sprung up in the church, domineering over the rest of the people, the so-called laity. And this domineering class claimed a superior place in the body of Christ…. This is what our Lord hates and what He hates we must hate with Him.

Instead of hating the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, the historic church embraces it, perpetuates it, and defends it. In some religious institutions this hierarchy is simple: one class of clergy rules the laity. But in others it is more complex, with the upper classes of the clerical hierarchy ruling those in the lower classes, and all together domineering the laity. The Lord utterly abhors this system; it is an abomination in His sight, for it violates His word that, because we are all brothers, we should call no man father or teacher (Matt. 23:9-10). Furthermore, it makes the practical function of the Body of Christ an impossibility because only a special class – the clergy – have the privilege of functioning in a full way.

The Apostate Church

Now we come to the church in Thyatira, the apostate church. The epistle to the church in Thyatira covers the apostate church from the latter part of the sixth century until the time of the Lord’s coming back. There are at least five aspects of Thyatira condemned by the Lord: the continuous sacrifice, the teaching of Jezebel, fornication, idolatry, and the depths of Satan.

In Greek the word Thyatira means “sacrifice of perfume,” or “unceasing sacrifice.” The church in Thyatira prefigures the apostate church full of sacrifices. Speaking of this continual sacrifice, Ironside (p. 50) says:

…Thyatira seemed to imply a continual sacrifice…. [The] continual sacrifice for the sins of the living and the dead…is the central, the root, blasphemy – the denial of the finished work of the Lord Jesus on Calvary’s cross – the one, only and all-sufficient offering for the sins of a guilty world.

The second aspect of Thyatira condemned by the Lord is the teaching of the woman Jezebel (Rev. 2:20). Jezebel is the one prophesied by the Lord in Matthew 13:33, the one who added leaven to the fine flour. Jezebel, the pagan wife of Ahab, was a type of the apostate church, and the teaching of Jezebel foreshadows the teaching of the apostate church. In the apostate church it is not a matter of what the Son of God says or of what the Word of God says, but of what the church says. Gaebelein remarks that the apostate church “has put a woman in the place of the Son of God,” and that the church “assumes the place of teacher and dictator; and Christ is rejected” (p. 38). Furthermore, Gaebelein points out that “Jezebel has a double meaning. It means ‘the chaste one’ but it also means ‘a dunghill.’ ” He says that the church represented by Jezebel “claims to be the Bride of Christ, but in reality is a dunghill of all vileness and corruption.” Then he concludes: “She exists today and will continue in her impenitent state till the predicted doom will overtake her” (p. 39).

The third feature of Thyatira condemned by the Lord is her fornication. The apostate church is filled with all manner of fornication, both spiritual and physical. In Revelation 17 she is called the great prostitute. This spiritual fornication, first countenanced in Pergamos, is the union of the church with the world. The church the Lord desires is a chaste virgin with a heart purely for Him. But the apostate church is not faithful to the Lord; rather, she indulges in fornication.

The fourth feature of Thyatira that the Lord judges is her idolatry. Idolatry is strictly forbidden in the second commandment (Exo. 20:4-5). Nevertheless, the apostate church is filled with it.

The fifth thing the Lord condemns, although implicitly, is the “depths of Satan.” The word “depths” figuratively denotes mysterious things. The apostate church has many mysteries or deep doctrines. The philosophy of these satanic mysteries has been used by Satan to damage and corrupt the church.

Incompleteness and Deadness

The epistle to the church in Sardis prefigures the various religious organizations which were established during and after the Reformation and which will continue until the Lord Jesus comes again. These organizations signified by Sardis are marked by two outstanding characteristics: incompleteness and deadness. The Reformation was God’s reaction to the apostate church. Although the Reformation accomplished some significant things, such as the recovery of justification by faith and the publication of the Scriptures in the language of the people, it did not go far enough; its work was not complete. For this reason, the Lord Jesus said, “I have not found thy works perfect before God” (Rev. 3:2). Because the Reformation did not bring the church back to God’s original intention, the Lord needs the church in Philadelphia.

Furthermore, the various religious organizations have become dead. The Lord said, “Thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead” (Rev. 3:1). Speaking of Sardis, Gaebelein (p. 40) says:

The Reformation itself was of God and the great men who were used were the most mighty instruments of the Holy Spirit. It was the greatest work, up to that time, since the days of the Apostles. But out of it came…human systems…. The Reformation began well, but soon developed dead lifeless things…. They have a name to live but are dead.

Nothing is more abominable in the eyes of God than death. Although all Christians recognize the seriousness of sin, very few recognize the seriousness of death. God is the living One, and He cannot tolerate deadness. Although there are some living ones in the historic church, as a system it is characterized by deadness.

What the Lord Desires Today

Let us now summarize those aspects of the historic church condemned by the Lord and conclude with a brief word about what the Lord desires the church to be today In Ephesus we saw that the Lord rebuked the loss of the first love; in Pergamos, He judged the marriage to the world, the teaching of Balaam, and the doctrine of the Nicolaitans; in Thyatira, He condemned the continual sacrifice, the teaching of Jezebel, fornication, idolatry, and the depths of Satan; and in Sardis He disapproved of incompleteness and deadness. When the historic church is viewed as a whole, all these elements are seen in it, although not every characteristic is found in every branch of Christendom. Where in today’s religious organizations can we find a corporate group of people, not individuals, who have the best love for the Lord; who are separated from the world in an absolute way; who have abolished the clergy-laity system and meet simply as brothers and members of the Body of Christ; who have purged themselves of all the leaven, the evil mixture, brought in through the apostate church; who tolerate no form of idolatry or fornication; and who loathe incompleteness and deadness? There is no doubt that in the historic church there are individuals who are pure and absolute in their love for the Lord, who love what He loves and hate what He hates, and who have separated themselves from everything condemned by Him. But the historic church as a whole is not such an entity. Rather, it is permeated and saturated with the very things the Lord condemns in these epistles. Because the historic church has become so degraded, many of the Lord’s seekers have had to “go outside the camp” (Heb. 13:13); that is, they have had to seek the Lord Jesus and the fellowship of the Body outside the religious system of today.

This group of seekers is prefigured by the church in Philadelphia, the only church of the seven that is praised by the Lord. This indicates that it is the church in Philadelphia which satisfies the Lord’s desire and fulfills His purpose regarding the church. At present, it is sufficient to simply point out three outstanding characteristics of Philadelphia: brotherly love, keeping the Lord’s Word, and faithfulness to the Lord’s name. In Philadelphia there is no ecclesiastical hierarchy, no clergy-laity system. Everyone is simply a brother. In Philadelphia there are no heretical teachings or pagan practices; rather, the pure Word of the Lord is adhered to with an absoluteness not found in the historic church. In Philadelphia there is no compromise with the world; instead, every form of worldliness is condemned and compromise with the world is exposed. In Philadelphia there are no divisive names; on the contrary, there is just one name – the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. When the Lord Jesus died on the cross, giving Himself up for the church and purchasing her with His blood, His intention was to gain such a church as Philadelphia.

The Lord has spoken strongly in His Word regarding the situation of the historic church in its various manifestations. If we are faithful to Him, we shall echo His words in our generation. But our burden is not mainly to expose the shortcomings of the historic church. It is to cooperate with the Lord that He may have, as the preparation for His coming back, the practical expression of the church He desires. In faithfulness to the Lord we must stand outside of the historic church and apart from it. But in love for Him we must stand for Philadelphia and with Philadelphia. May the way be made straight and the sky clear for all the Lord’s seekers to follow Him for the fulfillment of His purpose regarding the church. May the desire of His heart be fulfilled in this generation.

Back to Historic Christianity? (Pt. 1)

The material on this page was written in the 1970s to respond to the criticisms of Walter Martin, founder of the Christian Research Institute (CRI) and the original “Bible Answer Man.” CRI has since withdrawn those criticisms and reversed its earlier conclusions (see “A Brief History of the Relationship between the Local Churches and the Christian Research Institute”). The text of this article is published here for the historical record, for the important points of truth it addresses, and because CRI’s criticisms, although withdrawn, are still repeated by others.

From: Answers to the Bible Answer Man – Appendix

January 21

ARTICLE 1

Bible Versus Tradition

In recent weeks the Bible Answer Man has referred to “historic Christianity” as the standard by which all Christian truth should be judged. On a radio broadcast, referring to Witness Lee and the local churches, he said, “They are perverting historic Christianity.” In a speech delivered at Melodyland he exhorted the Christians of the local churches to turn “back again to historic Christianity.” He has never yet told us to turn back to the Bible, for the Bible is in fact an embarrassment to him. When we expound Isaiah 9:6; John 14; Romans 8:9-10; 1 Corinthians 15:45b; 2 Corinthians 3:17; or 2 Corinthians 13:5, he never answers us according to these verses. Rather he will say that our view is heretical, or that our teaching was condemned by some council, and that we need to return to the “historic Christian church.” Does the Bible Answer Man not realize that by taking such a position he is in the succession of the ancient Pharisees? They were the ones who said to our Lord, “Why do Your disciples transgress the tradition of the elders?” (Matt. 15:2, NASV). They did not say to the Lord, You and Your disciples are not keeping the Word of God. They were not concerned with whether or not He kept the Word of God. They were concerned with whether He transgressed the tradition of the elders. So it is with the Bible Answer Man. By paying even slight attention to what we say, he should be able to tell that what we care for is God’s Word. But this apparently makes no difference to him. What he condemns us for is that we transgress the tradition of the historic Christian church. By taking such a position, the Bible Answer Man stands squarely in line with the Council of Trent, the most authoritative of all the Roman Catholic councils. In the year 1546 this Council decreed that the Word of God is contained in both the Bible and in tradition and that the two are of equal authority. The Council further declared that it is the duty of every Christian to give them equal respect. Though the Bible Answer Man would surely deny that he does give equal respect to the Bible and to tradition, his practice speaks louder than his words. In actual practice he continually avoids meeting us on the ground of God’s pure Word, and continually decries that the local churches are not in the tradition of the historic Christian church. This is the neo-catholicism of the Bible Answer Man.

What Is the Historic Christian Church?

We must ask ourselves the question: What is the historic Christian church? Since the Bible Answer Man continually exhorts us in the local churches to return to historic Christianity, it places a certain obligation upon us to ask ourselves what it is that he is exhorting us to return to.

The Early Church Fathers

In asking us to return to the historic Christian church, is the Bible Answer Man exhorting us to return to the teaching and doctrine of the Ante-Nicene Fathers (i.e., the fathers prior to the Council of Nicea)? If so, he is requiring our allegiance to a source which is vastly inferior to the Word of God. Philip Schaff points out that:

Luther had no idea of a golden age of virgin purity of the Church…His view of the absolute supremacy of the Word of God over all the words of men, even the best and holiest, led him to a critical and discriminating estimate of the fathers and schoolmen…He placed their writings far below the Scriptures; and the more he progressed in the study of both, the more he was impressed with the difference. To reform the Church by the fathers is impossible; it can only be done by the Word of God (History of the Christian Church, Vol. VII, p. 534).

Schaff also points out Calvin’s view of the Fathers:

Those holy men were ignorant of many things, frequently at variance with each other and sometimes even inconsistent with themselves (Schaff, Vol. VIII, p. 530).

An outstanding theologian of the last century had this to say concerning the early church Fathers:

I believe the Trinity and the incarnation along with the atonement, and…the resurrection, as already accomplished in Christ, to be the great foundation and distinctive truths of Christianity; but it is not in the Fathers of the first four centuries, that I should seek for the proof of, or any certain faith in, them. I certainly judge the Ante-Nicene Fathers to have failed (as doctors) in the assertion of the true and full divinity of the Lord (The Collected Writings of J.N. Darby, Vol. XV, pp. 291-292).

If we are looking for the truth, we surely cannot lean upon the Fathers. Anyone in the least acquainted with them knows that they seriously disagreed among themselves, and even on a doctrine as important as the Trinity openly disagreed with and contradicted each other. Take, as an example, the theology of Origen on the doctrine of the Trinity. He chooses the worst possible language to express his point of view. I do not know what his heart and intentions may have been, but he held that the Son was wholly inferior to the Father, and that the Father was as much superior to the Son and the Spirit as the Son and the Spirit are to others. He had a wild imagination, teaching a doctrine of the preexistence of souls whose station in this life is according to their conduct in a previous life. One theologian says his theology was close to Mormonism mixed with universalism. Yet he is called a “Father.”

Cyril and Alexander, both of Alexandria, are two other famous fathers. Alexander was the coryphaeus of the fathers on the matter of the incarnation. He got his adversary, John of Antioch, condemned before he arrived for the Council of Ephesus. Then the same John assembled a council of the eastern bishops and condemned Cyril. Cyril had advanced twelve famous anathemas, which had been adopted as the faith of the church in the Council of Ephesus. Now in the face of condemnation, Cyril withdrew his twelve anathemas and accepted the creed proposed by John.

But these are not all. Tertullian taught that in death Christ experienced corruption. Cyril said this was impossible. Clement of Alexandria said the body of Christ did not require ordinary sustenance for its preservation. According to him Christ did not eat for the sake of His body; but Clement said that His body was held together by a supernatural power. According to Cyril our Lord only ate for the sake of His companions who were with Him.

Because the fathers of the first four centuries were closest to the apostolic times, one might imagine that they would be in closest touch with the truth of the New Testament. But “as a fact, we find that the earliest…Fathers are the most vague, loose, uncertain, and, if it must be said, heretical.” According to Darby, though Irenaeus is feeble and contains “some superstition,” compared to many other fathers he is a refreshment to read. Darby then continues by comparing the fathers with the Word of God:

What a difference from the wild imaginations of a speculative…Origen; the loose and loosely expressed doctrine of a Justin Martyr; or the turbulent orthodoxy and doubtful Christianity of an ambitious Cyril! What a difference, I say, in all this from that piety which flows from the personal knowledge of Christ by the Scriptures, and respect for the Word as the Word of God (Ibid., p. 294)!

The Creeds

Perhaps when the Bible Answer Man calls us back to the historic Christian church, he is calling us back not only to the Fathers but also to the creeds of the first few centuries. Those who cry, “the historic Christian church, the historic Christian church,” tell us we have the faith of the church in the creeds.

Apostles’ Creed

One of the creeds universally recommended in all ages has been the Apostles’ Creed. The very title is a deception. The fable connected with this creed is that each Apostle came forward to give one article. The fact is that the Apostles’ Creed, as we have it now, is not even as ancient as the Nicene Creed. It is purported to contain all the fundamental articles of the Christian faith necessary to salvation, to be the best popular summary of the Christian faith ever made, to have the fragrance of antiquity and the inestimable weight of universal consent, and to be a bond of union between all ages and sections of Christendom. The facts are that, far from being apostolic, this creed first appeared in its present form in the fourth or fifth century. Even then it had no “descent into hell” in it and no procession of the Holy Spirit from the Son. These two articles were added later, even though the Council of Ephesus had forbade any further additions. And even today this last article is rejected by the Greek Church and is the avowed cause of division between the Greek and Roman churches. I say it is the avowed cause because history shows fairly clearly that the real cause was ambition and rivalry. This creed, which is supposed to represent a common faith, has in fact divided the “historic Christian church.”

Not only has the Apostles’ Creed been a cause of division; there is not a trace in it that Christ is God. An Arian or a Unitarian could subscribe to it as well as one who holds the fundamental truth of the Triune God. This would seem to be a rather serious omission for a creed that supposedly represents the norm of faith. The Apostles’ Creed represents the Father as God and Almighty, whereas the Son and Holy Spirit are spoken of apart with no reference to divinity. Creation is attributed to the Father exclusively with no reference to the Word, Who is Christ. In fact, everything that is said of Jesus Christ in this creed is referable to what He was as a man.

The Nicene Creed

But the advocates of the historic Christian church may say, “It is the Nicene Creed we call you back to.” In this creed, promulgated by the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D., the writers did clearly set forth the deity of our Lord Jesus Christ. However, although they presented the truth that He is the only begotten Son of God, there is no mention at all of His being the firstborn Son of God. Indeed, I doubt if those who call us back to the creeds even realize there is a distinction between Christ as the only begotten Son of God, and Christ as the firstborn Son of God. The Nicene Creed does not present to us the one unique God of the Bible who is triune. Rather it presents to us three distinct divine Persons, separate from one another, who are to be believed in: “I believe in one God the Father Almighty…and in one Lord Jesus Christ…and I believe in the Holy Ghost.” There is nothing in this creed of the interpenetration of the three of the Godhead that we find in the Bible: “Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in me?” (John 14:10, NASV). In these words of our Lord we see the interpenetration that existed between Himself and the Father, but there is nothing of this in the creed. In fact, in the Bible there is such an interpenetration of the divine three of the Godhead that the Lord can say, “He who has seen Me has seen the Father” (John 14:9, NASV). It is because of this interpenetration of the Father and the Son that John says in 1 John 2:23: “Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also” (NASV). Why then, I ask, does not the Nicene Creed present to us the God of the Bible as triune instead of tritheistic? Those who call us back to the “historic Christian church,” of which the Nicene Creed is supposed to be the standard of Christian faith par excellence, seem to forget that Luther delivered us from authorities and standards outside the Bible. Why does the Bible Answer Man not appeal to the Scriptures which record Christ’s sayings and contain the Apostles’ writings? Would this not be the best way to find out what we should believe and what the first Apostles taught? When the matter of Christian truth arises, why does the Bible Answer Man not direct us to the Bible? Why does he rather prefer to say, this or that teaching is what has always been taught by the historic Christian church?

But I would still point out one more deficiency in the Nicene Creed. This deficiency has to do with what is said concerning the Holy Spirit. The Nicene Creed says:

I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceedeth from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spake by the Prophets.

This is the sum total of what the Nicene Creed says about the Holy Spirit. Is this all that is to be believed concerning the Holy Spirit? It is clear that the authors of the Nicene Creed saw nothing more concerning the Holy Spirit than that He is the giver of life, that He proceeds from the Father [and the Son], that He is to be worshipped and glorified together with the Father and the Son, and that He spoke by the prophets. Apparently they saw nothing of the sevenfold Spirit of Revelation 1:4; 4:5; and 5:6. But the “seven Spirits” referred to in these verses are clearly the Holy Spirit, for in Revelation 1:4-5, when the churches are addressed, the grace and the peace which are to the churches is from the Triune God: “Him who is and who was and who is to come; and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne; and from Jesus Christ.” Nothing is said in this creed concerning the fact that the positions of Christ and the Spirit are changed in this salutation, the Spirit being put in the second place and Christ being put in the third. No doubt this indicates that the days of which Revelation speaks are days of the Spirit and, moreover, the Spirit intensified seven times. There is nothing in this creed concerning the change in the Spirit’s composition following the glorification of Christ (John 7:38-39); nothing of the truth that the Lord is the Spirit (2 Cor. 3:17); nothing of the truth that the seven eyes of the Lamb in Revelation 5:6 are the seven Spirits of God (indicating once again the interpenetration of Christ and the Spirit); and nothing of the truth that the speaking of Christ is equivalent to the speaking of the Spirit according to Revelation 2:1 and 7. In the local churches we not only believe that the Spirit gives life and speaks by men (the only two attributes of the Spirit which are mentioned in this creed) but that according to John 7:37-39 He is the Spirit of the glorified Christ; that according to 2 Corinthians 3:17 it is the Lord who is the Spirit; that according to Revelation 1:4 and 5 the Spirit has been intensified sevenfold; that according to Revelation chapters two and three the speaking of Christ results in the hearing of the Spirit; and that according to Revelation 5:6 the Lamb and the Spirit are so closely identified with each other that the eyes of Christ are said to be the Spirit Himself. Thus, any discerning reader can see why we insist on being called back, not to the “historic Christian church,” but to the Bible itself.

The Councils

But what about the so-called ecumenical councils of the first several centuries? Are these not authoritative guides for Christians in the matters of faith and practice? When one looks into the history of the councils, he finds that the so-called doctrinal and ecclesiastical purity of the post-Apostolic period is a myth.

Nicea I

The Council of Nicea, which drew up the Nicene Creed and which one author tells us must be believed to be considered orthodox, was in fact not convened for Christian reasons at all. It was called together by the Emperor Constantine for political reasons. It was convened at Nicea in June of 325 A.D. and is considered to be the first general council of the church. About 318 bishops were present along with a large number of lesser dignitaries. It was presided over, not by one of the bishops, but by the Emperor Constantine. We are told by the historians that the bishops sat in profound silence while great officers of state and other dignified persons entered the hall, and awaited in trembling expectation the appearance of the emperor. The emperor, who was supposed to be a Christian, took his place openly before the whole world as the head of the church. But, as Andrew Miller points out in his Church History, at the very moment he was seated as the head of the first ecumenical council, he retained the office of the Pontifex Maximus – the high priest of the heathen. This title he never gave up, and he died the head of the church and the high priest of the heathen. History also tells that in the same year that he convened the Council of Nicea, he gave orders for the execution of his oldest son Crispus and for the suffocation in a hot bath of Fausta, his wife of over twenty years. The reader may judge for himself concerning the fitness or rather unfitness of one so polluted with blood, to sit as president over a Christian council.

Nicea II

According to Philip Schaff, the acknowledged dean of church historians, “Nicea…has the honor of both opening and closing the succession of acknowledged ecumenical councils.” This means that the first and the last of the acknowledged ecumenical councils were both held at Nicea, and called by that name. The second Council of Nicea was held in 787 A.D. under the Empress Irene. The purpose of calling this Council was to decide the question of image-worship. About 350 church dignitaries were present. After assenting to the decrees of the first six councils, they passed the following canon, acting, according to them, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit:

With the venerable and life-giving Cross shall be set up the venerable and holy images, whether in colours, in mosaic work, or any other material; within the consecrated Churches of God, on the sacred vessels and vestments, on the walls and on tablets, in houses and in highways. The images, that is to say, of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ; of the immaculate mother of God; of the honoured angels; of all saints and holy men – these images shall be treated as holy, memorials worshipped, kissed, only without that peculiar adoration which is reserved for the Invisible, Incomprehensible God. All who shall violate this, as is asserted, immemorial tradition of the Church, and endeavour, forcibly or by craft, to remove any image, if ecclesiastics, are to be deposed and excommunicated; if monks or laymen, to be excommunicated (Miller’s Church History, p. 294).

But not only was this council content to form and solemnly commit the so-called Christian church to a practice absolutely abhorrent to the Scriptures – they also solemnly acclaimed:

We all believe, we all assert, we all subscribe. This is the faith of the apostles, this is the faith of the Church, this is the faith of the orthodox, this is the faith of all the world. We who adore the Trinity worship images. Whoever does not like, anathema upon them! Anathema on all who call images idols! Anathema on all who communicate with them who do not worship images (Ibid., p. 295).

Councils Were Convened by Emperors

All of the so-called ecumenical councils, which the advocates of the “historic Christian church” would call us back to, were councils called and held under the supervision of heathen emperors. I have already pointed out that the first Council of Nicea was called and presided over by the Emperor Constantine, high priest of the heathen. The Council of Constantinople was convened in 381 A.D. by Theodosius the Great, and held at the Imperial City. The Council of Ephesus was convened in 431 A.D. by Theodosius the Second in connection with the western co-emperor Valentinian the Third and held under the direction of the ambitious and violent Cyril of Alexandria. The Council of Chalcedon was convened in 451 by the Emperor Marcian. The second Council of Constantinople was convened in 553 A.D. by the Emperor Justinian without the consent of the pope. And the third Council of Constantinople was convened under the direction of Constantine Progonatus in 680 A.D. By simply pointing out that these ecumenical councils were all convened by heads of state, it should be clear that they were not free from political and ecclesiastical impurity.

The Council of Ephesus and Mary-Worship

I must point out that the Council of Ephesus, one of the most respected of the so-called ecumenical councils, gave its full sanction to the worship of Mary. Although the term “mother of God” had been freely used without scruple by Athanasius and Gregory Nazianzen, it was the Council of Ephesus that gave this phrase official sanction. The Council of Ephesus was mainly concerned with the heresy of Nestorianism. According to Philip Schaff, “the overthrow of Nestorianism was at the same time the victory of Mary-worship.” Then he goes on:

The opponents of Nestorius…could scarcely find predicates enough to express the transcendent glory of the mother of God. She was the crown of virginity, the indestructible temple of God, the indwelling place of the Holy Trinity, the paradise of the second Adam, the bridge from God to man, the loom of the incarnation, the sceptre of orthodoxy; through her the Trinity is glorified and adored, the devil and demons are put to flight, the nations converted, and the fallen creature raised to heaven (Vol. 3, p. 421).

The advocates of the historic Christian church would call us back to the councils, one of which installed Mary as the mother of God. It is from the Maryology of the Council of Ephesus that the Maryolatry of later ages developed. Today millions of Roman Catholics assume that Mary has the perogatives of deity. Devotions to her are without question the most spontaneous of any in the Roman Catholic Church. Thousands of Roman Catholics voluntarily attend novenas for the Sorrowful Mother. National shrines, such as those at Lourdes in France, Fatima in Portugal, and Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico, are dedicated to her and attract millions. Thousands of churches, schools, hospitals, convents and shrines are dedicated to her glory. Some of the titles given Mary are in themselves a revelation of the way Roman Catholics feel about her: Mother of God, Queen of the Apostles, Queen of Heaven, Queen of the Angels, the Door of Paradise, the Gate of Heaven, Our Life, Mother of Grace, and Mother of Mercy. The advocates of the historic Christian church would call us all back to a Council which propagated a doctrine so contrary to Scripture as to issue in idolatry.

Councils and Fathers Forbid Marriage

1 Timothy 4:1-3 says:

But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons…men who forbid marriage (NASV).

These words refer to the period in church history to which the Bible Answer Man would call us back. The practice of forbidding the clergy to marry was developed and crystallized in the fourth and fifth centuries.

First, the clergy were forbidden to marry more than once on the ground that Paul’s word that an elder should only be “the husband of one wife” forbade a second marriage. Then the practice of clerical celibacy advanced another step when the Council of Elvira, meeting in Spain in 306 A.D., forbade marriage to clerics of all ranks upon pain of excommunication. The Council of Arles, meeting in 314 A.D., passed a similar canon. The Ecumenical Council of Nicea meeting in 325 supported these prohibitions of clerical marriage in its third canon.

The great teachers of the Nicene and post-Nicene period, “Jerome, Augustine, and Chrysostom, by their extravagant laudations of the superior sanctity of virginity, gave this legislation the weight of their authority” (Schaff, History of the Christian Church, Vol. II, p. 412). Jerome, who translated the Bible into Latin, took the lead to “cut down the wood of marriage by the ax of virginity.” Thus we see again that the Nicene period of church history, far from being characterized by doctrinal purity, was rather represented by men who paid “attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons” (1 Tim. 4:1).

Conclusion

Those who insist that all Christians should return to the theology and declarations of the creeds and councils of the “historic Christian church” are in fact calling us back to a standard which helped produce the chaotic situation that exists in Christendom today. As I have already pointed out, the sinful practice of Mary-worship can be traced to the sanction given it by the Ecumenical Council of Ephesus. The practice of worshipping images was sanctioned by the Second Ecumenical Council of Nicea. The Apostles’ Creed is excessively inadequate in declaring the deity of Christ, and the Nicene Creed is equally inadequate in declaring the truth concerning the Holy Spirit. All of the so-called ecumenical councils had political overtones, being convened by the political authority of the time. The so-called church fathers could not agree among themselves, even concerning the most basic doctrines of the Christian faith. Augustine pointed out that the councils were not reliable, one often contradicting and qualifying another. The Westminster Confession of Faith, chapter thirty-one, article four, states:

All synods or councils since the apostles’ times, whether general or particular, may err, and many have erred; therefore they are not to be made the rule of faith or practice (Schaff, Creeds of Christendom, Vol. III, p. 670).

History shows all too clearly that church leaders and church councils can and do make mistakes, some of them serious. We in the local churches affirm that the Scriptures interpreted by the Holy Spirit are the only source of Christian truth. To be called back to the historic church of the first few centuries is in fact to be called back to the source of all the confusion which exists in Christendom today. If we are going to be called back, we insist on being called back to the Bible itself. We do not agree that there are two sources of authority: Scripture and church tradition. Neither do we agree with the practice of interpreting the Bible in the light of later tradition, as the Bible Answer Man seems to prefer. This is a practice which will cause the truth of the Bible to be made void. It was in fact the church fathers along with the councils and the creeds that introduced the Dark Ages, which lasted for a thousand years. The source of the Dark Ages was exactly the councils, the creeds and the fathers who began to substitute their ideas for the truth of the Bible. The fact is that the so-called church which developed from the fathers, the councils, and the creeds became so darkened and corrupted that it required the intervention of God through Martin Luther in the sixteenth century to call the church back to the Bible. Luther was told that he had no right to call into question the “orthodox faith” which had been confirmed by the sacred councils and defined by the church. To this he replied:

Unless I am convicted by Scripture and plain reason – I do not accept the authority of popes and councils, for they have contradicted each other – my conscience is captive to the Word of God.

It is not to the fathers, the councils and the creeds that we must return. It is to the Bible itself. There are those today who would say to the Christians: to the fathers, the councils and the creeds. But we in the local churches say to all the Christians:

To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them (Isa. 8:20).

This is the last of a series of five articles

Back to Historic Christianity? (Pt. 2)

The material on this page was written in the 1970s to respond to the criticisms of Walter Martin, founder of the Christian Research Institute (CRI) and the original “Bible Answer Man.” CRI has since withdrawn those criticisms and reversed its earlier conclusions (see “A Brief History of the Relationship between the Local Churches and the Christian Research Institute”). The text of this article is published here for the historical record, for the important points of truth it addresses, and because CRI’s criticisms, although withdrawn, are still repeated by others.

From: Answers to the Bible Answer Man – Appendix

January 21

ARTICLE 2

In a recent speech, the Bible Answer Man exhorted the Christians in the local churches to turn “back again to historic Christianity.” However, we must follow the word of the Lord, not the opinions of men. If anyone is clear about the church, either the church revealed in the Scriptures or the historic church, it is Jesus Christ. He is the One who said, “I will build my church” (Matt. 16:18); the One who gave Himself up for the church, purchasing it with His own blood (Eph. 5:25; Acts 20:28); the One who spoke so knowingly to the seven churches in Asia (Rev. 2 and 3). Therefore, in this article we shall consider a crucial question: What does Jesus Christ think of the historic church? The answer to this question is found in the Lord’s words in Matthew 13 and in Revelation 2 and 3. In this article we shall discuss, in an elementary way, the Lord’s word in Matthew 13, a portion of Scripture that charts the development of Christendom from the Lord’s first coming until His second coming at the end of this age.

A number of Christian teachers seem to feel they have been commissioned by God to defend the historic church from all attack, real or imaginary, and oppose those who have found in the proper church life an alternative to organized Christianity. However, the arguments, opinions, and apologetics of the defenders of the historic church need to be weighed in the light of the Lord’s words regarding it. Any who defend what the Lord judges will find themselves in disagreement not with men, but with God.

A Definition of the Historic Church

By the “historic church” we do not mean the church revealed and practiced in the New Testament. Rather, the phrase “historic church” denotes the system of organized and institutionalized Christianity as it has developed from the end of the apostolic era until the present. This system includes Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, and the Protestant sects and denominations. Our definition of the historic church also encompasses the councils, creeds, pronouncements, and practices of the aforementioned groups.

Prophecies of the Historical Development of Christendom

In Matthew 13 there are seven parables regarding the kingdom of the heavens. The first of these parables, the parable of the sower, reveals that the Lord Jesus came to sow the seed of the kingdom. In the second, third, and fourth parables, the parables of the tares, the mustard seed, and the woman with the leaven, the Lord speaks directly, albeit prophetically, of the historical development of institutionalized Christianity as the outward appearance of the kingdom of the heavens. In so doing He uncovers the actual situation of Christendom. If we compare these parables with the facts of church history, we shall see an amazing correspondence.

The Tares, the False Believers

In the parable of the tares we see Satan’s counterfeit of the genuine seed, which are the sons of the kingdom. Because the wheat is the Sons of the kingdom, the tares, the children of the evil one, must be the many false believers who are part of the various institutions of the historic church. We wish to make it clear that in every branch of historic Christianity there are true believers, those who have the saving faith in the Person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ, who have been washed in the Lord’s redeeming blood, and who have been regenerated by the Holy Spirit. However, it is nonetheless a fact that tares, false believers, have been sown among the wheat and that both will grow together in the world until the end of this age. The fact that the wheat and the tares grow together in the world indicates that those religious organizations in which tares are found in abundance are actually part of the world. Can it be seriously doubted that tares grow in abundance in Roman Catholicism, in Eastern Orthodoxy, and in so many Protestant denominations? One outstanding feature of the historic church is that it contains a mixture of wheat and tares. Some groups even boast of such a mixture, condemning those who have no tares among them.

It was especially during the time of Constantine the Great, who terminated the persecution of Christians and made Christianity the state religion, that tares were sown by the enemy. Thousands of nominal believers were baptized into Christianity, even being rewarded financially by the Roman Empire for doing so. Thus, in the eyes of the Lord Jesus, the historic church is not a farm growing Christ as wheat and producing real believers as the sons of the kingdom; it is a mixture of wheat and tares, with the tares in many cases vastly outnumbering the wheat.

The Big Tree—Greatness in the World

The second parable regarding the historic church is the parable of the mustard seed. According to this parable, the Lord planted a mustard seed in His field. But, instead of remaining a mustard herb, it grew abnormally and developed into a huge tree. In this monstrous tree the birds of heaven find their roost. The growth of this tree is definitely not a positive development. Rather, it points to the grotesquely abnormal development of organized Christianity into a worldly institution. The birds that lodge in its branches, that is, in the various organizations of this complex religious system, refer to evil persons, evil things, and evil matters. In the parable of the sower, it was the birds, representing the evil one, who devoured the seed. Therefore, in the third parable the birds must also refer to things related to Satan, the evil one. Arno C. Gaebelein has said:

The mustard seed springing up in the field (do not forget that the field is the world), rooting deeper and deeper in the earth and expanding in this unnatural way affording room for birds…shows us a system which is rooted in the earth and which aims at greatness in the world, expansion over the earth. The Lord…never called the church to assume such proportions and become an abnormal growth in the earth.

At what point in its historic development did the church become a great tree? No doubt this took place at the time of Constantine the Great when Christianity entered into a marriage relationship with the world. From that time onward, it began to be a worldly power, having allied itself with the political system of the world. The great tree in this parable is the religious system of Christendom; the branches are its various organizations; and the birds are the evil persons, evil things, and evil matters that make their home there. The Lord’s intention was that His church would be a lowly mustard herb providing food for man’s nourishment and satisfaction. But due to the evil strategy of Satan, the church in its historical development has become a great tree, a system rooted in the world and exerting an ungodly influence over it. Regarding this, H. A. Ironside remarks:

So that which began as a field of wheat developed, in the course of centuries, into the mustard tree. The professing church of God became a power to be reckoned with among the nations, but its branches sheltered all kinds of false professors and evil teachers. The birds of the air represent the hosts of evil, and these lodge in the branches of the mustard tree. It is a most graphic picture of what Christendom became throughout the course of centuries when the false church seemed to dominate the world.

Those who defend the historic church are the defenders of the monstrous tree. They stand squarely within the organized system of Christendom, endeavor to perpetuate it, and fight to defend it from any who would criticize it in the light of biblical revelation concerning the true nature and calling of the church. But in the eyes of the Lord Jesus Christ, historic Christendom is the big tree of Matthew 13. It is an evil system that is rooted in the world and that breeds and nourishes the desire for greatness among its members. Hence, it is not surprising that the historic church not uncommonly uses the adjective “great” to describe itself and its enterprises. The ultimate development of the great tree will be Babylon the Great unveiled in Revelation 17. Sorry to say, the historic church is no longer a lowly, life-transmitting mustard herb; rather, it is an institution seeking worldly greatness.

The Leaven Producing a Mixture

In the fourth parable, the parable of the leaven, we see an even further and more insidious development of the historic church. According to H. A. Ironside, in this parable we see “the false church inserting the leaven of corrupt teaching into the food of God’s people.” The crucial matter in this parable, therefore, is the leaven. According to the Bible, leaven signifies evil and corruption. The meal offering described in Leviticus 2 was not to contain leaven. To the Lord Jesus leaven also denoted evil, for He charged us to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees and the leaven of Herod (Matt. 16:6; Mark 8:15). Ironside has pointed out that the leaven of the Pharisees “is hypocrisy and self-righteousness; the leaven of the Sadducees…is false doctrine and materialism; and the leaven of Herod…is worldliness and political corruption.” The fine flour in this parable refers to the Lord Jesus, especially to His humanity; it also refers to the truth of God concerning Christ. The leaven denotes those corrupt, heathen, and pagan practices that have been combined by the historic church with the things of Christ to produce a mixture. For example, the incarnation of Christ and the birth of Christ are pure meal, but Christmas, which is of pagan origin and which involves many heathen practices, is leaven. Likewise, the resurrection of Christ is meal, but Easter, named after the pagan goddess, is leaven. In the historic church the things of Christ are mixed with paganism. This mixture is produced for the purpose of making Christianity more palatable and acceptable to the masses. Although some branches of the historic church contain less of this mixture than others, none is completely purged of the leaven. As the Lord Jesus said, “The whole was leavened,” that is, the whole of Christendom has been leavened. It is interesting that in the traditional interpretation of this parable propounded by the historic church the leaven is regarded as positive. What a complete inversion of the Lord’s meaning and intention!

You may be wondering who the woman is who added leaven to the fine flour. When we compare the fourth parable in Matthew 13 with the fourth epistle to the seven churches in Revelation 2, the epistle to the church in Thyatira, we see that this woman is Jezebel. As many Bible scholars have pointed out, the woman Jezebel signifies the apostate church filled with spiritual fornication and idolatry. Thus, the woman in Matthew 13 signifies the most apostate aspect of the historic church, which took the lead to add the leaven of paganism and heathenism to the fine flour. Those who defend the historic church defend a system of doctrine and practice that surreptitiously adds leaven to the pure truth of Christ.

The Present Situation of Christendom

At this point, I would ask the reader to consider the present situation of the historic church in the light of these parables, giving special attention to three outstanding characteristics of historic Christendom: the tares, the numerous false believers; the huge tree, the complex religious organization that seeks worldly greatness and adopts many worldly practices; and the leaven, the mixture caused by adding evil things and pagan practices to the pure word concerning Christ. How the Lord hates the tares, the big tree, and the leaven! Surely He condemns the deeds of the woman, Jezebel, who mixes pagan things with the truth concerning Himself. I ask you this question: Whose assessment of the historic church will you accept – that of its defenders, or that of the Lord Jesus? Once we know what Jesus Christ thinks of Christendom, the historic church, how can we have a part in perpetuating it, let alone furthering it or building it up? If the second, third, and fourth parables in Matthew 13 do not describe the actual situation of the historic church, then what do they describe? Let us not dilute the Word of God to avoid offending the religious establishment. There can be no compromise with tares, birds, and leaven. Let there be no toleration of the woman who leavens the pure word of Christ with paganism.

The Lord’s Desire

The Lord desires a church without tares, a church separated from the world and purely of Him. He desires a church of wheat, mustard herbs, and meal. Such a church produces food satisfying to both God and man. Some think that it is impossible for such a church to exist today. But before the Lord we must bear testimony to the fact that it is not only possible, but, to meet the Lord’s need and to satisfy His desire, it is necessary. In order for such a church to exist in a practical way today, we need to seek the Lord absolutely and consecrate ourselves utterly to Him so that we may have a part in the fulfillment of the desire of His heart. This is not only a spiritual matter, but also a practical one, for it involves separation from the tares, the big tree, and the leaven. May the Lord fulfill His desire for the proper church life in this generation!

Does Catholicism Teach Idolatry?

The material on this page was written in the 1970s to respond to the criticisms of Walter Martin, founder of the Christian Research Institute (CRI) and the original “Bible Answer Man.” CRI has since withdrawn those criticisms and reversed its earlier conclusions (see “A Brief History of the Relationship between the Local Churches and the Christian Research Institute”). The text of this article is published here for the historical record, for the important points of truth it addresses, and because CRI’s criticisms, although withdrawn, are still repeated by others.

From: Answers to the Bible Answer Man – Appendix

January 14

Idolatry Condemned by God

Of all the things condemned by God, idolatry is the most serious. The first commandment is this: “You shall have no other gods before Me” (Exo. 20:3). Then in the second commandment God’s people are instructed to worship Him directly and not through any intervening object: “You shall not make for yourself an idol [i.e., an image], or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. You shall not worship [bow down to] them or serve them” (Exo. 20:4-5, NASV). There are literally scores of other passages in the Bible which also forbid the making or venerating of images. A few examples are:

You shall not make for yourselves idols, nor shall you set up for yourselves an image or a sacred pillar, nor shall you place a figured stone in your land to bow down to it; for I am the Lord your God (Lev. 26:1).

Cursed is the man who makes an idol or a molten image, an abomination to the Lord, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and sets it up in secret (Deut. 27:15).

Being then the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man (Acts 17:29).

[They] did not repent of the works of their hands, so as not to worship demons, and the idols of gold and of silver and of brass and of stone and of wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk (Rev. 9:20).

From these verses the following points on idolatry are very clear:

  1. No one should make or set up an image or an idol of any kind.
  2. No one should bow down to an image.
  3. An idol or image is an abomination to God.
  4. Anyone who makes an image is under a curse.
  5. An idol is an image formed out of the imagination of man.
  6. Image worship is to bow down before things which can neither see, nor hear, nor walk.
  7. Image worship should be repented of.

Misleading the Public

It is therefore a matter of great seriousness for anyone to condone idolatry or in any way mislead people into thinking that it is not a serious matter. On his radio program of October 8, 1977, the Bible Answer Man did exactly this. He led his radio audience to believe that the Roman Catholic Church, the greatest practitioner of idolatry in the Western world, does not officially teach and practice idolatry. In glowing words he expressed his past history with the Catholic Church and defended her as a Church which condemns idolatry. In his own words he said:

I have been taught in Catholic schools and graduated from one. I was almost converted to Catholicism…I am thoroughly conversant with Catholic theology. The worship of a statue in a church or any other place by a Catholic is condemned as idolatry by the church…I have enough quotations on that to sink a ship. So they are not worshipping the statue…I’ll be glad to give you references. All you have to do is write me. Check it for yourself.

A request was sent to the Bible Answer Man for his documentation which he so generously offered on the radio, proving that the Catholic Church condemns the worship of idols. What was received in return was a letter from the office of the Bible Answer Man stating: “We have not developed any tracts or materials specifically on that yet…” and offering not one single shred of the evidence promised on the radio. On the radio it was claimed that there was enough evidence on this subject to “sink a ship,” but when the evidence was requested not one single sentence was produced. There are, however, literally mountains of documentation to prove that the Roman Catholic Church not only practices idolatry but even promotes it.

The Source of Modern Catholicism

Modern Catholicism dates from the Council of Trent held from 1545 to 1563. The Council of Trent was a counteraction to the Reformation. It fixed the standard to which all Catholics must conform and to which all converts to Catholicism must consent. When a person becomes a convert to Catholicism, he must profess the Tridentine Faith in which he promises to “undoubtingly receive and profess all…things delivered, defined, and declared by…the holy Council of Trent” (paragraph 11).

Those who remember the Second Vatican Council, which was initiated by Pope John XXIII and which closed in 1965, may be under the impression that the Second Vatican Council modernized and liberalized the Catholic Church. That Council did make changes but only in liturgy, administrative practices, and in certain matters of religious freedom. But it repeated the age-old claim that, while other Christians may have elements of truth and may be sincere in their service and devotion to Christ, the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church. Pope John XXIII, who presided at the first session, Pope Paul VI, who presided at the last session, and several prominent Cardinals made it plain that this Council would make no changes in the doctrinal structure of the church. The purpose of the Second Vatican Council was not to change the inner make-up of the Roman Catholic Church but to make her more efficient and more acceptable to the world of the twentieth century. An official document, entitled The Constitution on the Church, which was prepared by the Council and promulgated by the Pope, reaffirms the doctrine of the Catholic Church precisely as it stood before the Council met. It reaffirms the infallibility of the Pope; it repeats in substance the teaching of the Council of Trent on the Church that “Priests and Bishops are the representatives of God on earth…justly, therefore, they are called not only angels, but gods, holding as they do the place and authority of God on earth.” It reaffirms that priests have “the power of consecrating and offering the body and blood of our Lord and of remitting sins” (Catechism of Trent). I take pains to point out that the Council of Trent was the prime mover in molding the inner being and nature of contemporary Catholicism, and that the inner being of Catholicism was left untouched by the Second Vatican Council convened under Pope John XXIII.

Enough Evidence to Sink a Ship

The Bible Answer Man’s statement that the Catholic Church does not encourage its constituents to worship statues and images can be proved to be blatantly false simply by referring to the official documents of the Catholic Church herself. On this matter there is surely enough evidence to “sink a ship.” In the Twenty-fifth Session of the Council of Trent, held on the third and fourth of December, 1563, the delegates of the Council decreed certain matters relating to The Invocation, Veneration, and Relics of Saints, and on Sacred Images. This is what the delegates enjoined, and this is what is still binding on all Roman Catholics throughout the world, the Bible Answer Man to the contrary:

The holy Synod enjoins on all bishops, and others who sustain the office and charge of teaching, that, agreeably to the usage of the Catholic and Apostolic Church,…they especially instruct the faithful diligently concerning the intercession and invocation of saints [i.e., praying to dead Christians]; the honor [paid] to relics; and the legitimate use of images…but that they think impiously who deny that the [dead] saints…are to be invocated; or who assert either that they do not pray for men; or that the invocation of them…is idolatry; or that it is repugnant to the Word of God, and is opposed to the honor of the one mediator of God and men, Christ Jesus; or that it is foolish to supplicate, vocally or mentally, those who reign in heaven.

In summary, what was said in the preceding quotation was:

  1. The invocation and veneration of the dead saints is agreeable to the usage of the Catholic Church.
  2. The Bishops and all who sustain the office in charge of teaching are to instruct the faithful in the matter of praying to the dead saints and requesting their help.
  3. Honor is to be paid to relics.
  4. The use of images is legitimate in spite of the fact that the Bible clearly states that you shall not make a graven image (Exo. 20:4).
  5. Those who deny that the dead saints are to be prayed to (invoked) are impious.
  6. Those who insist that praying to the dead saints is idolatry are also impious.
  7. They think impiously who imagine that it is repugnant to the Word of God, opposed to the honor of the one mediator, Jesus Christ, or that it is foolish to supplicate vocally those who reign in heaven.

This would seem to be enough to prove forever that the Catholic Church not only practices idolatry but teaches its constituents to do so. But this is not all.

The “holy Synod” continued:

The holy bodies of holy martyrs, and of others now living with Christ…are to be venerated [i.e., worshipped and adored] by the faithful; through which [bodies] many benefits are bestowed by God on men.

It’s Happening Today

Can anything be clearer than this? The dead bodies of human beings are to be venerated, that is, worshipped and adored, by the believers. And it is taught by the Catholic Church that these bodies convey spiritual benefits upon those who worship before them. This is not a fairy tale. In April of last year I visited Rome and made several trips to St. Peter’s Church. On the main floor of the nave of St. Peter’s were the dead and partially decomposed bodies of two previous Popes who are in process of being canonized for sainthood. The dead bodies lie in a glass case, and as I stood there I beheld “the faithful” come and kneel before the bodies to pray and worship. One need not step into Doctor Wonmug’s time machine and be projected into the Middle Ages to behold such blatant idolatry. One need only board a 747 at Los Angeles International Airport and fly to Rome, and he can behold it as it exists this very day, just as I did.

Not only did the Council of Trent teach that the faithful should venerate the bodies of the dead, but they without equivocation “condemned [all] who affirm that veneration and honor are not due to the relics of saints; or that [they] are uselessly honored;…and that the places [graves] dedicated to the memories of the saints are in vain visited.”

Superstition

The Synod continued by saying:

The images of Christ, of the Virgin Mother of God, and of other saints, are to be had and retained particularly in temples, and that due honor and veneration are to be given them.

The Synod went on to say that these images are not to be worshipped because divinity or virtue resides in them or because any trust is to be placed in them, “But because the honor which is shown them is referred to the prototypes which those images represent.” A prototype is the original. Apparently these images of Christ, the Virgin, and the saints are considered to be genotypes, or copies of the originals. Surely this is superstition. The fact is that no one since Bible times has ever seen the Virgin Mary let alone Christ, and absolutely no physical details concerning their appearance is recorded in the Bible. The only passage which comes close to describing Christ is Isaiah 53, which does not present Him in a flattering fashion at all. There is no record that the church had any pictures of Christ during the first four centuries, let alone images of Him. The so-called pictures and images of Christ, Mary, and the saints are purely the product of someone’s imagination. Not one of them is a true replica.

Fraudulent Representations

The only thing we know about the Lord’s physical features is that He was a Jew. How would you like it if someone who had never seen you and knew nothing about you resorted to his own imagination, background, and nationality to come up with an image of you? The result would be fraudulent. I would resent it. And certainly Christ resents with a passion all these fraudulent, counterfeit genotypes of Himself. No picture or idol can do justice to His personality or portray His deity. According to Deuteronomy 34:6, the grave of Moses was kept beyond the reach of idolatry. It would have been sheer horror, to say nothing of blasphemy, for the body of Moses to have been displayed in a glass case for the devout Israelites to come and venerate. It is also significant that the physical features of Christ have been kept beyond the reach of idolatry. The Bible is extremely clear: (1) It says on the one hand that God is a Spirit, and that they who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in reality (John 4:24); and (2) it also says that:

being…the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man (Acts 17:29, NASV).

The Council of Trent says:

Great profit is derived from all sacred images, [and] by the images which we kiss, and before which we uncover the head, and prostrate ourselves, we adore Christ, and we venerate the saints, whose similitude they bear.

To make such a statement is to fly in the face of God’s Holy Word. It is to require the faithful to practice idolatry contrary to what God enjoins in His Holy Word.

Giant Abuses

The Council declared that “if any abuses have crept in amongst these holy and salutary observances, the holy Synod ardently desires that they be utterly abolished.” But the whole thing is an abuse. It is not that abuses have crept in “amongst these holy observances”; even these things which were enjoined by the Council are giant abuses. Praying to dead saints, veneration of dead bodies, worshipping before relics and images, kissing idols and prostrating before them, are the greatest of abuses. It is not that abuses can creep in among these things; these things in themselves are the abuses. In fact, the Council of Trent introduced one gigantic abuse after another. And the decrees of this Council still officially represent the position of the Roman Catholic Church today. Even if it were true that Roman Catholics prayed only to the spirit represented by the image, it would still be sin because (1) God has forbidden the use of images in any manner; and (2) there is only one Person to be worshipped, who is God Himself through our Lord Jesus Christ.

A Great Mystery

The Bible Answer Man tells us that Roman Catholics do not pray to the idol but to the spirit that is represented by it. But this is the answer given by idol worshippers the world over. The simple fact is that the Catholic Church consecrates statues and images, that her priests bless them, that they are placed in churches and in homes for her people to bow down to and offer incense before. Neither can it be denied that she does this in contradiction to the second commandment, and that she teaches as Christian doctrine that which is entirely contrary to Scripture. If the Apostles were to return to earth today and enter a Roman Catholic Church, they would not be able to tell the difference between the pagan worship of idols which they knew in the first century and the contemporary practice of kneeling before images, burning incense to them, kissing them, praying to them, and carrying them in public processions. The Roman Church today is as thoroughly given to idolatry as the city of Athens was when Paul visited that place in Acts seventeen. Why the Bible Answer Man would tell his radio audience that he has enough material “to sink a ship” showing that Catholicism does not teach idolatry is a great mystery. The only feasible answer seems to be that in him there is still a great residual amount of sympathy and respect for the Roman Catholic Church. The prolonged exposure which he received as a young man in Catholic schools has apparently influenced him and left its mark upon him. There is no other way to explain his attempts to whitewash a system which is blatantly idolatrous. His ordination papers may be issued by the Southern Baptists, but in his heart he is still sympathetic to idolatrous Catholicism.

Not Individuals But a System

It is important to point out that what I have said in this article is not directed to Roman Catholics as individuals. It is directed at the religious system. I am fully aware that there are many Roman Catholics who are genuine, born-again believers in Christ. Perhaps many of them do not invoke the help of saints, worship before the bodies of the dead, superstitiously believe that spiritual benefit can be derived from venerating relics, or practice image worship. But the fact is, these believing Roman Catholics to the contrary, that a system of idolatry exists which is known as the Roman Catholic Church. Those who are in it, even though they may be genuine believers in Christ, are lending their support and their presence to a system which is clearly condemned by God in the Bible. It is this fact that the Bible Answer Man should point out in faithfulness to his audience rather than whitewashing the whole situation and misleading his listeners. John Henry Newman, an Anglican priest who later turned Roman Catholic and rose to the rank of Cardinal, in his book, The Development of the Christian Religion, admits that “Temples, incense, oil lamps, votive offerings, holy water, holy days and seasons of devotion, processions, blessings of fields, sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure (of priests, monks and nuns), images, etc., are all of pagan origin” (p. 359). If a Cardinal in the Roman Catholic Church itself admits to these things, why should a Southern Baptist radio preacher try to cover it up? May the Bible Answer Man be helped to realize his responsibility to be faithful to the truth, no matter how unpopular it might be.

This is the fourth in a series of five articles.

The Bible Answer Man has Three Gods

The material on this page was written in the 1970s to respond to the criticisms of Walter Martin, founder of the Christian Research Institute (CRI) and the original “Bible Answer Man.” CRI has since withdrawn those criticisms and reversed its earlier conclusions (see “A Brief History of the Relationship between the Local Churches and the Christian Research Institute”). The text of this article is published here for the historical record, for the important points of truth it addresses, and because CRI’s criticisms, although withdrawn, are still repeated by others.

From: Answers to the Bible Answer Man – Appendix

January 7

Proved by His Interpretation of John 1:1

The Bible Answer Man has three Gods. This is not an empty assertion. It is a conclusion arrived at by a close examination of his public statements both on the radio and in writing. I do not say that he admits to having three Gods. This he would vigorously deny. But I do say that when one closely examines his statements regarding the Godhead, the inevitable conclusion is that, practically and functionally, he is a tritheist.

Let us first examine his statements regarding John 1:1:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Concerning this verse the Answer Man said on his radio program October 8, 1977, that to say ” ‘The Word was God’ does not make the Word the God with whom He was.” This statement must be examined closely. When this verse is literally translated it reads:

In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and God was the Word.

The word God appears in this verse two times. My question is this: Does the word God in the first instance refer to one party, and in the second instance refer to another party? This is the inference from his statement that to say ” ‘The Word was God’ does not make the Word the God with whom He was.” If the Word was not the God with whom He was, then is the Word another God? In the second clause of John 1:1 it says clearly, “The Word was with God,” and in the third clause it says clearly that “the Word was God.” According to the Answer Man the word God in one instance refers to someone the Word was with, and in the second instance the word God refers to the Word Himself, but he denies that the God that He [the Word] was, is the God He was with. This means that he believes that in John 1:1 there are two parties who are called God.

On October 15, 1977, pursuing the same argument on John 1:1 the Answer Man insisted that to say that “the Word was the God with whom He was would be actually Sabellianism, the heresy of modalism in which you destroy the distinctions and Persons in the Godhead…” This statement reveals how he reads the Bible, and especially how he reads John 1:1. He reads the Bible through the tinted glasses of historical controversy. It has been observed time and time again that he reads the Bible this way. Before us is a concrete example. He is unable, apparently, to come to the pure Word of God and let the Word speak for itself. Sabellius taught that the three of the Godhead did not have simultaneous existence, but rather appeared successively one after another, first the Father, then the Son, then the Holy Spirit. Sabellianism denies the triune nature of God as indicated, for instance, in Matthew 3 verses 16 and 17 where Jesus is seen coming up out of the baptismal water, the Spirit of God is descending upon Him like a dove, and the Father’s voice is speaking from heaven saying, “This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” That is the pure word of God in Matthew 3:16 and 17. It is clear from these two verses that all three of the Godhead were simultaneously present, not present one after another as modalism teaches.

But the question before us is this: Can we allow John 1:1 to speak in the same unhindered fashion without importing into it the color of a later doctrinal controversy? When studying the Bible, we must set aside historical controversies and come to the pure Word. To interpret the verse as the Answer Man does is to read into it something which is not native to it. This is called eisegesis. In his book on the Jehovah’s Witnesses entitled Jehovah of the Watchtower, the Answer Man chided the Witnesses for this very practice. He said:

Since Jehovah’s Witnesses profess to believe in the Bible as the infallible Word of God and their guide in all doctrines, this study will be based entirely upon what the Bible itself teaches, and not upon what it is thought to teach. We know it is possible to “eisegete” (read into) the Scriptures many ways, but impossible to “exegete” (take out) from them more than one way, at least where cardinal doctrines of the Christian faith are concerned (p. 12).

I would urge him in this matter to take his own advice and to base his study on what the Bible actually teaches, and not upon what it is thought to teach either according to history or according to any other outside influence. I would urge him to go to the Bible and take out of it what it actually says, and not to read into it the historic controversies.

It seems the Answer Man is more strongly influenced by the fear of being called Sabellian than by the desire to discover what the Word of God actually says. This is indicated by his radio statement that to say, ” ‘The Word was the God with whom He was’ would be actually Sabellianism.” John 1:1 does not lend itself to Sabellianism, for Sabellius contended that the three of the Godhead did not exist simultaneously. John 1:1 refutes Sabellius at the outset. The second clause of John 1:1 makes it clear that the Word and God were existing together simultaneously. The problem comes when we reach the third clause: “and the Word was God.”

Having seen that the Answer Man reads the Bible through the colored glasses of history, it becomes clear why he prefers to translate the second reference to God in John 1:1 as Deity. Rather than saying, “The Word was God,” he prefers to say, “The Word was Deity.” Though in John 1:1 the two words for God are the same, Theon and Theos respectively, he interprets the first one God and the second one Deity. In other words Theon he would render God and Theos he would render Deity, although there is absolutely no grammatical or linguistic reason for making this distinction. To interpret the verse his way is to say that the Word has divine quality, but is not God Himself. Once again I would refer the Answer Man to the advice he himself gave the Jehovah’s Witnesses in the book by him already referred to. He said:

It is nonsense to say that a simple noun can be rendered “divine,” and that a noun [without an article] conveys merely the idea of quality.

This advice was given the Jehovah’s Witnesses on John 1:1 where they prefer to interpret Theos as a divine quality. Yet, on his radio program he turns around and does exactly the same thing he chides them for doing, that is, rendering Theos as Deity. And all the time he is refusing to equate the Theon of the second clause with the Theos of the third clause. He is saying that he believes that there is only one God because both parties in John 1:1 share the same nature. To quote him exactly from his radio program of October 15, 1977, “He [Christ] shares the nature of God.” But to say that Christ shares the nature of God is a long way from saying that He is God. According to 2 Peter 1:4, even believers share the divine nature, but this by no means makes them God. The fact of John 1:1 is that the Word was not only with God, the Word was God. The Word not only shares the nature of God. This is so of every child of God. But Christ, the preexistent Word, was with God, and was God. The translators of the Amplified Bible caught the force of John’s meaning when they translated the verse this way:

In the beginning [before all time] was the Word [Christ], and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself.

This is without doubt a great mystery. But when we come to the pure Word of God and read it without outside interference, and believe it exactly the way it is written, we must bow in adoring worship and confess that:

The Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself.

Proved by His Definition of God

On October 15, 1977, the Answer Man asked a member of his radio audience, “What do you think the word ‘God’ means? Define it for me.” Then in answer to his own question he said, “Does it not mean Divine Nature?” According to him the term “God” equals “Divine Nature.” On the same program, referring to John 1:1, he said, “The Word shares the nature of Deity; the Word is true Deity.” Then he continued, “Jesus Christ is eternal God ]i.e., He has the same nature as God]. He is face to face with God. He shares the nature of God. He is God as the Son, second Person of the Holy Trinity. He is not the Father, who is the God with whom He was.” Finally, speaking of the three of the Trinity, he said, “Each one of them shares the Divine Nature.”

Four observations must be made concerning the Answer Man’s view of God. The first is that for him “God” equals “Divine Nature.” He said clearly, “The word ‘God’ means…Divine Nature.” According to this definition, God is not a divine being, but a divine nature. This explains how he can have a plurality of Gods. The nature of anything may permeate a number of different parts. For instance, the nature of a chair may be wood, the nature of a table may be wood, and the nature of a stool may be also wood. In nature these three items are all one, but numerically they are three. One could say that the chair, the table, and the stool are three in one; three in number but one in nature. This is the way the Answer Man views the Triune God. His view is that the three of the Godhead, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, are three in number, but since they all have the Divine Nature, they are one God.

This brings us to the second observation, namely, that the oneness of the Triune God, for the Answer Man, is not quantitative but qualitative. This means that for him the oneness of the Triune God is not in quantity, that is, God is not uniquely one in quantity, but is one in quality, in all the members of the Godhead having the same quality of nature. The number one is God’s unique number. The unity of the Godhead is not just a “unity of substance” as he says in his book Jehovah of the Watchtower, page 45. God is not one in substance only, as if you could line up three human beings and say that because they all have the same substance, or nature, they are one. That may be “unity of substance,” but that is not the unique numerical oneness of the Bible. The unique numerical oneness of the Bible when referring to God is that He is not only one in nature, but He is one Being. The Answer Man begins with the three of the Godhead and then proceeds to account for the oneness of the Godhead by explaining it in terms of a “unity of substance.” But the Bible turns the matter around and begins with the unique oneness of God. The foundation truth concerning God in the Bible is that God is uniquely one. On this matter the Word of God is uncompromising: “Hear, 0 Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord” (Deut. 6:4). To the Hebrew of the Old Testament it would have been unthinkable that God was multiple in His being and one in His nature. To them God was one Lord, that is, He was numerically one. When the Bible says that God is one, this does not mean that you can line up three separate parties and say, because they are all composed of the same substance with the same nature, that these three are one. This is not the oneness of God. This is the natural human concept attempting to explain the inexplicable. Where, in the whole Bible, does it say that God is one only in quality but not in quantity? If the Answer Man would protest that I have quoted from the Old Testament, then I refer him to the words of the Lord Jesus in Mark 12:29 where He said: “The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord.” If he still protests that the doctrine of the Trinity was not yet developed in the Gospels, then I refer him to 1 Corinthians 8:4 where Paul says: “There is none other God but one.”

The Bible begins with the truth that God is one. Without ever dropping God’s unique oneness, their experience of Christ and the Holy Spirit in the New Testament led the Lord’s people to realize that in the one unique God there are three, interpenetrating each other. The interpenetration of the three of the Godhead is to such an extent that what is done by one is said to be done by all. Thus the Lord Jesus could say, “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father” (John 14:9). This is also why in Isaiah 9:6 the Child is called the mighty God and the Son is called the eternal Father. There is such an interpenetration of the three of the Godhead that one cannot be separated from the others. According to the Bible, the Father is in us (Eph. 4:6; Matt. 10:20); Christ is in us (2 Cor. 13:5); and the Spirit is also in us (Rom. 8:9). This does not mean that there are three different divine beings, separate from one another, inside of us. This would be tritheism. No! To say that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit, who interpenetrate one another, are in us is to say that the one unique God, who is triune, is in us. In like manner Matthew 10:20 says, “The Spirit of your Father is the one speaking in you” (Gk.). But in 2 Corinthians 13:3 Paul says “Christ [is] speaking in me.” This surely does not mean that there are two separate beings speaking inside of us, one called the Father and the other called the Son. No! You may say that the Father speaks inside of you, and you may also say that Christ speaks inside of you; for where one is, both are. This is exactly the point of John 14:10: “The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” When Philip said to the Lord Jesus, “Show us the Father,” Jesus said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, Show us the Father?” On the one hand, there is the Lord Jesus and there is also the Father; but on the other hand, “I and the Father are one.” This is the mystery of the Triune God. On the one hand, “The Word was with God,” but on the other hand, “The Word was God.” This is the revelation of the Bible.

Proved by His Teaching of One God in Three Separate Persons

In his book entitled Essential Christianity, the Answer Man says that “Certainly the teaching of ‘one God in three Persons’ was accepted in the early church…” (p. 22). It has already been pointed out that his definition of “God” is “Divine Nature.” When this phrase is substituted for the word “God,” one can more clearly see what the Answer Man is saying. He is saying that three separate Persons are divine in nature, which means they are God. To say that the Bible teaches there is one divine nature in three Persons is surely to misunderstand the Bible; for this is not the teaching of the Bible but the teaching of tritheism, the doctrine that there are three separate Gods. This is the Answer Man’s doctrine of the Triune God, and this is why we say that he has three Gods. The Bible nowhere teaches that there is one Divine Nature in three separate Persons. The teaching that there is one Divine Nature in separate Divine Persons is rank heresy. What the Bible does teach is that there are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit not in one Divine Nature but in one Divine Being.

On the same page of Essential Christianity a phrase is quoted from the Athanasian Creed: “neither confounding the Persons nor dividing the substance.” Of course, this Creed has put everything into nice, convenient categories for the human mind. “Not confounding the Persons” means not confusing the Persons with one another.

The concept of making an absolute distinction between the three of the Godhead is found in the post-biblical age of the councils and the creeds, and it is from this post-biblical age that the Answer Man has derived his concept of the Trinity. He did not get it from the Bible.

Isaiah, speaking under divine inspiration, could surely be accused of “confounding the Persons,” for he prophesied: “The Son…shall be called the eternal Father” (Isa. 9:6). Paul could equally be accused of the same error, for he wrote: “The Lord [Christ] is the Spirit” (2 Cor. 3:17). And our Lord Himself could be accused of compounding the error, for He not only said: “He who has seen Me has seen the Father” (John 14:9); He also said: “The Spirit…will be in you,” and “I am coming to you” (John 14:17-18).

The problem of “confounding the Persons” was raised in an age which had substituted theological formulas for Biblical revelation. It is from this later source that the Answer Man gets his doctrine of the Trinity.

His doctrine could be illustrated as follows: Let us say that we line up three men named Peter, James, and John. These three men are all human beings, so they all have the same human nature. Concerning these three individuals, we could now say that there is one human nature in three persons. They all have the same human nature, but they are three separate persons. Their unity consists in the fact that they are all composed of the same substance, that is, the substance human beings are composed of. And on the side of three, it is obvious that there are three because three individual men are standing there. This is an illustration of the Answer Man’s concept of the Triune God. We may now say that the names Peter, James, and John are changed to Father, Son, and Spirit. These are the three divine Persons. All three are composed of the same divine substance, and all three are Deity in nature. This is what composes the unity or the oneness of the three. Of course the triad aspect needs no explanation, for there standing before you are three parties: Father, Son, and Spirit. This kind of teaching is called tritheism, and a tritheist is a person who has three Gods.

Now we may illustrate the teaching of the Bible in this way: We will begin by saying not as the Answer Man does that there is “one God in three Persons,” but that there are three in the Godhead. It is important to realize that it is not that there is one Divine Nature in three separate Persons, but that there are three (we do not say Persons for the Bible does not say so) in one God. And when we say “one God,” we do not mean one Divine Nature, as the Answer Man does; we mean one Divine Being. According to the Bible, God is not only one in nature because that could allow numerically for a countless number of parties. When we say “one God,” we mean one numerically. There is only one God according to the Bible, and this God Who is one in number is triune: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, all existing simultaneously from eternity. This is the mystery of the Triune God.

The trouble with the Answer Man is that he is captured not by the Word of God, but by theology, doctrine, theologians, creeds, councils, and systematic thought. In Essential Christianity, page 23, he says, “According to Christianity, the doctrine of the Trinity teaches that within the unity of the one Deity are three separate Persons….” This may be “according to Christianity” and it may also be what “the doctrine of the Trinity teaches,” but it is a far cry from what the Bible says. This is his theology; it is not his reading of the Bible. To say that God is composed of three distinct parties who have the same nature is not the monotheism of the Bible but the tritheism of theology.

I would counsel the Answer Man to take the advice of his superior at Melodyland School of Theology, J. Rodman Williams, and “go back behind creed and dogma to the Scriptures themselves.” We agree with Dr. Williams when he says:

There is no doctrine of the Trinity in the Bible. The word “Trinity” is nowhere to be found, nor the language “one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity,” and certainly nothing about needing to believe this for salvation. What we do have, however, might be called the raw materials for such a doctrine; for the New Testament is laden with the names of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, while vigorously affirming that God is one (The Pentecostal Reality, pp. 100-101).

Dr. Williams continues,

The earliest disciples of Jesus did not, by any means, start with a doctrine of Holy Trinity. There was not yet any dogma, no New Testament Scripture. The only thing that they had ever heard about God numerically was that He was one and not three. The Old Testament had vigorously affirmed, “Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord.” This was not just doctrine they had been taught, it was also deeply ingrained in their life and experience. The early disciples, as orthodox Jews, were radical monotheists; they abominated anything by way of idolatry or polytheism that would possibly dilute their faith. They were Unitarian—quite far from being Trinitarian. Yet, something amazing happened in their experience: a band of orthodox, monotheistic, even Unitarian Jews began to speak about the one God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Before too long the early church was baptizing people into this Triune Name. Such an extraordinary change was not due to better or higher instruction. This could not have brought it about. Like their earlier faith in the one God, the conviction of His reality as Triune was burned into their life and experience (pp. 102-103).

The point of quoting this passage from the Answer Man’s superior is that he makes the following points:

  1. In the Bible God is numerically one, not three.
  2. The Old Testament Jews and the early Christians were radical monotheists.
  3. Their Trinitarianism developed out of their experience, first of Jesus and then of the Holy Spirit.

Dr. Williams goes on to point out that such an enlargement and development of their view of God occurred over a period of years and “happened because of their association with Jesus of Nazareth.” They began with the truth that God was numerically one. Then gradually through their experience with Jesus, and later with the Holy Spirit, they came to realize that they were in touch with the living God. For the early disciples the reality of God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit was not theology or creed, but rather a living experience. This was not their doctrine, but their experience. It was not their creed; it was their reality. The early Christians, like the Old Testament Jews, believed in one God. But when they touched Jesus, they knew they touched the one God. And when they contacted the Holy Spirit, again, they knew they contacted this one God. It took theologians of another age, using mental gymnastics, to turn the experience of the triune God into meaningless jargon: “neither confounding the Persons nor dividing the Substance.”

We praise God that today we need not settle for abstruse theological formulas. It is still possible to experience the one God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in our daily lives. May all of God’s seeking children forsake the dead, dry surroundings of creedalism and return to the living joy of experiencing the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Proved by His Doctrine of “Composite Unity”

The Bible Answer Man has three Gods. This is proved conclusively by his teaching of corporate oneness, or what he calls “composite unity.” In his book Essential Christianity, page 25, he gives his explanation of how God can be three and also be one. He begins by asking the question, “What does the word ‘one’ mean? Does it always indicate solitary existence?” He then proceeds to list five examples of oneness which are not “solitary” but are examples of what he calls “composite unity.”

  1. Adam and Eve. According to Genesis chapter two, God spoke of Adam and Eve becoming “one flesh.” The Answer Man points out that God did not mean that Adam and Eve were to become each other, but that they were to become “as one before Him.” “So we see” he says, “that unity of a composite character was recognized by God Himself as existing within the world which He had created.”
  2. The marriage relationship. When Jesus said in Mark 10:8, “They are no more twain, but one flesh,” He was recognizing a composite unity about people joined in marriage.
  3. Numbers chapter thirteen, where the spies returned from the land of Canaan bearing “one cluster of grapes.” This means that a number of grapes were hanging from one solitary stem, which again refers to “a composite unity rather than merely a solitary ‘one.’ “
  4. National oneness. “If the United States should be attacked by a foreign power,” says the Answer Man, “everyone would ‘rise as one’ to the defense of the country. Yet no one would say that everyone had instantaneously become ‘one person.’ Rather, we would be one in a composite unity.
  5. Oneness in faith and doctrine. One might speak of being “one in faith or doctrine” or of “standing as one” in a time of crisis. This would also be considered a composite oneness. Then the Answer Man draws his conclusion: “Why then should we not accept composite unity where the nature of God is concerned?”

The Answer Man has left us in no doubt concerning his view of the unity of God. It is not the unique numerical oneness of the Bible, but rather a corporate unity. It is a unity in kind like that of two people united in marriage, or like the citizens of the country who rise as one in time of crisis, or like a cluster of grapes which can be said to be one cluster composed of many grapes. There is, of course, this kind of oneness. It does not violate the term “one” to define it in this way under certain conditions. But the question is this: Is this the oneness of the Godhead? Is God a corporation, so that when we see Him one day we will behold three distinct parties, rather than one unique God? Is it true, as the Answer Man says, that the unity of the Godhead is “a unity of…substance,” and that “Deity is that substance”? This would be similar to lining up three human beings and saying that they are one because they are composed of the same substance and that humanity is that substance. Is this the unity the Bible speaks of? Our answer must be unequivocally no. This is not the oneness of the triune God according to the Bible.

According to the Bible, there is no such clear-cut distinction of “Persons” as the Answer Man suggests, but rather a “perpetual intercommunication…motion…and interpenetration” between the divine three of the Godhead (Creeds of Christendom, Philip Schaff, Vol. 1, p. 38). It took theologians of the period following the New Testament to reduce the Trinity to neat, doctrinal categories. Take for example the Athanasian Creed, which Philip Schaff says “is unsurpassed as a masterpiece of logical clearness, rigor, and precision” (History of the Christian Church, Vol. 3, p. 690). It may be unsurpassed as a masterpiece of logical clearness, rigor, and precision, but at just these points it outdoes the Bible – for the Bible does not have the kind of logical clearness, rigor, and precision this creed has. In Baur’s three-volume work on the history of the doctrine of the Trinity, he disposes of this creed in a brief note (Vol. 2, p. 33), “as a vain attempt to vindicate by logical categories the harsh and irreconcilable antagonism of unity and triad.” Here is an author who at least realizes that one cannot reduce the Triune God to “logical categories,” nor reconcile the antagonism between one and three. What we have in the Bible is the matter of the one unique God who is in His being also Triune. Such distinction of Persons as the theologians of later eras attempted to make is not found in the Bible at all.

Take for example Isaiah 9:6.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

The prophet Isaiah was under no compulsion to be logically consistent when he uttered this verse by divine inspiration. No doubt many commentators, and the Answer Man himself, wish Isaiah had been more theologically discreet and had not included the phrase “everlasting Father.” But there it is! The child is the mighty God, and the son is called the everlasting Father.

We find the same apparent lack of theological precision in John 14:8-9. In verse seven Jesus said to the disciples:

If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

This raised the curiosity of the disciples concerning the identity of the Father because the Lord Jesus had just said, “If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him and have seen him.” Philip, expressing the perplexity of the group, said, “Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.” Jesus replied, “Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?” Note, now, the following words of our Lord: “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father.” No doubt the theologians, like the Answer Man, wish that for the benefit of later ages Jesus had been more considerate in the way He expressed Himself. It would have caused much less complication if He would have expressed Himself in language similar to that of the so-called Athanasian Creed: “That we worship one God in trinity, and the trinity in unity; Neither confounding the persons; nor dividing the substance. So there is one person of the Father; another of the Son; another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost is all one: the glory equal, the majesty coeternal.” Such is the language of the Athanasian Creed, but such is not the language of our Lord Jesus Christ. He makes no such logical, rigorous, and precise distinction between Himself and the Father, but shows, as we have indicated before, an intercommunication, motion, and interpenetration of the three of the Godhead.

We find this same intercommunion and interpenetration of the three of the Godhead in another portion of John 14. In verses 16, 17, and 18 our Lord said:

I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Here we have present the three of the Godhead: Jesus who is speaking, the Father to whom He prays, and the Spirit who will come. But when one examines verses 17 and 18 carefully, one finds that the Lord Jesus did not speak in the precise theological terminology of the creeds. Here again no doubt the commentators and theologians wish He had been more exact, for the language our Lord used does not exactly lend itself to systematic formulation.

This is what He said: I will ask the Father to give you another Comforter. This Comforter will be with you forever, and He will be the Spirit. The world can’t receive Him because the world can’t see Him and doesn’t know Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and shall be in you. In other words, Jesus said the One who is coming, whom He called the Spirit, was right at that moment dwelling with them and would later be in them. Then He changes the pronoun He to the pronoun I, and says, “I will not leave you orphans; I am coming to you” (Gk.). In verse 17 our Lord said He, the Spirit, will come, but in verse 18 He said I will come. Surely this is “confounding the Persons,” which the Athanasian Creed condemns under penalty of damnation.

May God’s people forsake the sterile, complicated language of theology and return to the simple, uncomplicated, nourishing language of the Word of God.

Proved from His Speculative Theology

As proof that the Answer Man has deviated from the Bible to the sphere of human wisdom and speculation, we cite his definition of God from a cassette tape distributed by his own Research Institute: “Within the nature of the one true God, there are three eternally distinct persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.” This definition is an excellent example of human speculation. Nowhere in the entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation is the word “nature” used in reference to God, and nowhere does it refer to the three of the Godhead as separate “Persons.” These are words and phrases which the Answer Man has borrowed from the world of speculative theology, which is a branch of the wisdom of this world. When he further explains the term “nature” as a “nature of substance, and that deity is that substance,” he is fully in the realm of speculation. One can only be dismayed by such verbal gymnastics. The same is true in his application of the term “Persons” to the three of the Godhead. Where amidst the tens of thousands of words in the Bible does the term person once refer to the Divine Trinity?

In a matter so mysterious and so far above the capacity of the human intellect to grasp, it is a dangerous thing to import terms and phrases which are foreign to the Bible itself in describing the mystery. I refer to H. R. Mackintosh, a renowned Scottish theologian at the turn of the century. In his classical work, The Doctrine of the Person of Jesus Christ, he quotes William Sanday who says: “Person, in Trinitarian usage, is a [state] of being which serves as a ground or basis of special function, but just stops short of separate individuality. It implies distinction without division.” Then Mackintosh goes on to comment:

It is certain that hupostasis in Greek theology, and persona, its Latin equivalent, do not mean now, and never have meant, what we usually intend by Personality. In strictness, then,…we use the word “Person” from simple poverty of language: to indicate our belief…in the reality of Divine distinctions, not to affirm separate conscious beings (p. 524).

This word is very clear.

  1. The term Person when applied to the Trinity implies a special function, but stops short of separate individuality.
  2. It implies distinction without division.
  3. The Greek and Latin words from which we derive the word Person do not mean now and never did mean what is usually intended by Personality.
  4. The reason the word “Person” is used at all is because of poverty of language.
  5. It is used to indicate our belief in the reality of Divine distinctions, not to affirm separate conscious beings.

The words quoted from Dr. Mackintosh should be read and memorized by the Answer Man and inscribed indelibly upon his mind, for he uses the term “Person” in exactly the way the superior theologians say it should not be used. He uses it not only to indicate a special function but also to indicate separate individuality among the three of the Godhead; he uses it not only to indicate distinction but also division among the three of the Godhead; he uses it in the way we commonly use the term person, to describe a self-contained being; and he uses it to affirm that in the Godhead there are three separate beings. Thus, we say that the Answer Man has deviated from the Bible to human wisdom and human speculation in the way he deals with the matter of the Triune God, and by so doing has gotten himself fully enmeshed in the error of tritheism.

To base our theology on speculation and even on inferences derived from the Bible always holds the risks of getting us into error. The Bible is a book of history. It does not deal with matters of speculation. Concerning the Godhead, for instance, it does not give us an “internal analysis of its contents.” It does not mix ontology (the philosophy of being) with arithmetic. The Bible is peculiar in that the only arithmetic applied to God in its pages is the mathematics of one. God is said to be one (Deut. 6:4); He is never said to be three. The historical data in the Bible indicate that in the being of God He is triune. But it is the one God who is triune; it is not three separate Persons who are united together by a likeness of substance, as the Answer Man teaches (Essential Christianity, p. 25).

The writers of the Bible make no such absolute distinction between the three of the Godhead as the speculative theologians make. That there are differences between the three of the Godhead no one who believes in the Bible would deny, but that those differences are so vast as to be considered as separate Persons is to leave the pages of the Bible for the world of speculation. Isaiah 9:6 is a prophecy concerning the Son:

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

All Bible students recognize that this verse refers to Jesus Christ. In several of his books the Answer Man also recognizes that this verse refers to Christ. He even uses it against the Jehovah’s Witnesses to prove that Jesus Christ is not “a mighty God” inferior to Jehovah (Jehovah of the Watchtower, p. 47). When the Jehovah’s Witnesses argue that this verse, which refers to Christ, does not mean that He was the “mighty God,” we agree with the author when he asks them, “Are there two ‘mighty Gods’?” But because of his Tritheistic concepts, in which he makes absolute divisions between the three of the Godhead, when he comes to the phrase, “His name shall be called…everlasting Father,” he himself attempts to explain it away by saying that this is not the unique eternal Father of the Godhead. We, therefore, turn the question to him: Is there more than one eternal Father in the Godhead?

His theology of speculation concerning God: that “within the nature of the one true God there are three eternally distinct Persons” has led him to forsake the pages of the Bible; he has exchanged the simple truth of God’s Word for the theological wisdom of this age. And he has adopted a theological point of view which is external to the Bible. The church is the “church of the living God,” not the church of a theological God, or a creedal God. And the truth which the church holds up among men is the Biblical truth of the living God. It is not philosophical truth or speculative truth or even truth drawn from inference. It is the historical truth revealed in the Bible. When the ground of historical revelation in the Bible is forsaken, or interpreted through the glasses of inference, philosophy, or speculation, the result will be error. This is the mistake the Answer Man has made. He has adopted a view of God which he derived from outside the Bible. This extra-biblical view has led him to believe that there are three separate Personalities in the Godhead and that the oneness of the Godhead is in the fact that these three separate Persons have the same nature. This is not the revelation of the Bible; this is tritheism. And this is why we say that he has three Gods.

This is the third of a series of five articles.

Is Christ Only Represented in the Believers?

The material on this page was written in the 1970s to respond to the criticisms of Walter Martin, founder of the Christian Research Institute (CRI) and the original “Bible Answer Man.” CRI has since withdrawn those criticisms and reversed its earlier conclusions (see “A Brief History of the Relationship between the Local Churches and the Christian Research Institute”). The text of this article is published here for the historical record, for the important points of truth it addresses, and because CRI’s criticisms, although withdrawn, are still repeated by others.

From: Answers to the Bible Answer Man – Appendix

December 31

The Bible Answer Man has insisted repeatedly that Christ is represented in the believer by the Holy Spirit. This position actually reveals that the Bible Answer Man has three Gods. Such a statement seems shocking, but the facts warrant it. Here are some of his statements taken from radio broadcasts of October 8th and 15th:

The Holy Spirit represents the Trinity on the earth now since Jesus Christ ascended into heaven.

Christ dwells in you in the Person of the Holy Spirit who represents the Trinity.

He [Christ] sent the Holy Spirit to be the representative of the Trinity in us. So the Holy Spirit…represents the Father and the Son in the church…. The Holy Spirit lives within us as the representative of the Trinity.

Jesus said, if I do not go away, He will not come to you. But if I go away, I will send Him to you. He was talking about the Holy Spirit. He did not say, if I go away, I will come to you; He said He will come, so the Holy Spirit is a separate Person from the Lord Jesus.

What the Answer Man Says

On the October 8th program the Bible Answer Man had two of his research assistants on the program with him. One of them made an absolutely staggering statement which apparently represented the Bible Answer Man also, since he let it stand without correction. The assistant said, “Just because three Persons dwell in us, it doesn’t mean that they become each other.” This statement along with the previous ones already quoted reveal the utter confusion of the Bible Answer Man and his staff. This last statement is an admission that three – God, Christ and the Holy Spirit – indwell the believer. Yet the Answer Man said previously that the Spirit represents the other two who are absent and that Christ does not dwell in the believer. Who can unravel such appalling confusion? It is also clearly, unequivocally stated that three Persons dwell in us, and that they are not each other. I would like to ask the Bible Answer Man how this differs from tritheism. All his statements and those of his assistants indicate that he is a tritheist. If he is not, I would like to know what distinguishes him from the tritheists.

In the brief quotations cited above, the Bible Answer Man uses the word represents or representative five times. All of these quotations are in reference to John 14, where the Lord said that He would send another Comforter. Since John 14 is such an enlightening record of the meaning of the Triune God, and since it came from the mouth of the Lord Jesus Himself, it seems important that we examine the chapter carefully, and note how it is consistently interpreted by the Bible Answer Man in a tritheistic way.

What Jesus Says

In the first seven verses of John 14 the Lord Jesus spoke of the Father in a way which seemed to take for granted that the disciples knew what He was talking about. In verse two He mentioned the Father’s house, in verse six He spoke of coming to the Father, and in verse seven He said, “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also.”

Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works. Believe Me that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me; otherwise believe on account of the works themselves” (NASV, vv. 8-11).

Here the word is very clear. When Philip said, Show us the Father, Jesus said to him, Have I been with you for over three years, and yet you do not know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, Show us the Father? Then He proceeded to say that He was in the Father and the Father was in Him. Even the words He was speaking to them were not initiated by Him, but were from the Father abiding in Him. I believe that up to this very moment, even for many reading these words, this passage is a mystery. What does it mean? Are the Son and the Father two, or are they one? I would have to say they are just one, and on the other hand they are two. If you press me further, how this could be, I must answer, I don’t know. I only know that on the one hand the Son and the Father are one. If you have seen one, you have seen them both. The Father is in the Son, and the Son is in the Father. The speaking of one is the speaking of the other. If you know one, you know the other. If one has been with you, both have been with you. But on the other hand they are still two. This is the mystery of the Triune God.

Distinction Without Separation

There are many who interpret these verses in a tritheistic way, as the Bible Answer Man does. He makes an absolute distinction between the Father and the Son. But the Father and the Son are not two Gods. To say they are two Gods would be heresy. We do not have three Gods. The God of the Bible is one unique God – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Here I do not use the word Persons for that would only be to confuse the issue. To say there are three Persons in the Godhead may at times be necessary, but in fact it goes too far. An eminent theologian, Dr. William Sanday, said: “Person, in Trinitarian usage, is a mode of being which serves as a ground or basis of special function, but just stops short of separate individuality. It implies distinction without division.” And H. R. Mackintosh, author of a classical work on The Doctrine of the Person of Jesus Christ, writes:

Words in such a realm are more or less arbitrary, and must be taken in a sense appropriate to their objects of denotation; and it is certain that hupostasis in Greek theology, and persona, its Latin equivalent, do not mean now, and never have meant, what they usually intend by Personality. In strictness, then, as was argued previously, we use the word “Person” from simple poverty of language: to indicate our belief, that is, in the reality of Divine distinctions, not to affirm separate conscious beings (p. 524).

The Son and the Father are One

In John 14:10 and 11 the Lord said that He was in the Father and the Father was in Him. This is no place for the human mentality to come to rest. As Dr. Mackintosh has said, “In regard to such matters a certain type of mind (like most children) is often curious. But why should we pretend to know where all is unknowable?” The facts are simply stated: The Son is in the Father, and the Father is in the Son; when the Son speaks, the Father does His work; the Father works through the Son’s speaking because the two are one. Note that the Lord Jesus never says that He and the Father are two. In Marshall’s Interlinear Greek-English New Testament John 10:30 is translated, “I and the Father we are one.” Here it is clear that the “We” are the “one.” We must take the mystery of the Triune God according to the clear Word of the Bible and not according to our preconceived theology.

The Son is Called the Father

Isaiah 9:6 was a prophecy concerning the mystery of the Father and the Son. This verse says:

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

This verse is a prophecy concerning the Son who would be given; yet He was called the everlasting Father. If you ask whether He is the Son or the Father, I must answer He is both, just as He is both the Child and the Mighty God. Do you believe that the Child is the Mighty God? Then you must also believe that the Son is called the Father.

Dialogue between the Answer Man and Jesus

If the Lord Jesus were here in the flesh today, perhaps the Bible Answer Man would say to Him, “Lord, show us the Father.” Jesus would say, “Answer Man, have you not read Isaiah 9:6: the Child shall be called the Mighty God, and the Son shall be called the everlasting Father? Don’t you know that I am the Son and I am also called the Father? Answer Man, you are asking me the question which my disciple Philip asked two thousand years ago. Have you not read what I said to him in John chapter fourteen? I now repeat for your benefit, Answer Man, what I told Philip over nineteen centuries ago: He who has seen Me has seen the Father. Answer Man, do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me?” The Word of God is so clear. None of us should be a Philip today. But even if we were, the Lord would make us clear even as He made Philip clear.

The Son is Realized as the Spirit

When the Lord Jesus was on the earth, He could be with the disciples to express the Father, but He did not have the ability to be in them (John 14:9a, 17c). This is why John 14:16-18 is necessary. In this section the Son tells us that He as the Spirit will enter into the disciples themselves. Notice I did not say He would enter in the Spirit but as the Spirit. First He came in the flesh to walk among men; then He took steps to get into men. This required a change, a transformation, in His being. John 14:16-18 says:

And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper [Comforter], that He may be with you forever; that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you, and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you (NASV).

It is in relationship to these verses that the Bible Answer Man uses the word represents and representative referring to the Spirit. He interprets these verses to say that the Son, one Person in the Godhead, prayed to the Father, another Person in the Godhead, to send the Holy Spirit, a third Person in the Godhead, and that this third Person is the representative of the Trinity on the earth today. But as we have already pointed out, it is a questionable practice to use the term “Person” in reference to the members of the Godhead; and it is also a very questionable, even heretical, practice to make an absolute separation between the Son and the Father. This kind of teaching is in fact tritheism.

An Absent Christ

What the Bible Answer Man actually believes and teaches is that Christ is absent from the earth today. He believes that Christ is now in heaven and that He has sent the Holy Spirit to the earth to be His representative. Otherwise the word representative would have no significance. If I send a representative to a certain location, it means I am not going there myself, but I am sending someone there to represent me. In effect, this means that I am absent. This is the Trinitarian theology of the Bible Answer Man. It was precisely to this kind of heretical theology that Dr. Mackintosh wrote the following words:

The coming of the Spirit…is not to be conceived as forming a compensation or substitute for the absent Christ; it is…Christ Himself…present. “I will come to you” and “when the Comforter is come” occur interchangeably, and any doctrine of the Trinity which finds this an insuperable obstacle stands so far convicted of tritheism. Between the Spirit and Christ in the heart no experimental distinction can be made. The one is the method of the other (p. 374).

No words could be clearer than these.

  1. The coming of the Spirit is not a substitute for the absent Christ.
  2. The Spirit is Christ Himself present.
  3. The Spirit’s coming in verse seventeen is Christ’s coming in verse eighteen.
  4. No experimental distinction can be made between the Spirit and Christ.
  5. The transformation of Christ into the Spirit is the method by which He would come to be in His followers.
  6. Anyone who finds this an insuperable obstacle stands convicted of tritheism.

The Coming of the Spirit is the Coming of Christ

In a marvelous passage from The Doctrine of the Person of Jesus Christ, Dr. Mackintosh proceeded to make this matter crystal clear:

The coming of the Spirit is equivalent to the return of Christ as an unseen and abiding presence, yet while Jesus lived on earth this more intimate fellowship could not be realized. On earth He had been manifested as a human individual, hedged about by physical necessities, absent from these followers that He might be with those. And before “I am glad for your sakes that I was not there” could pass into “Lo, I am with you always,” a vast transformation in His…existence must occur. It was death and resurrection which formed the transition-point and installed Him in a new order of conditions, through which He became the indwelling life of His Church. “This universality of operation, both intensive and extensive,” writes Dr. Forrest, “cannot belong to the Divine while clothed and localized in ‘flesh and blood’; it must be liberated from these bonds before it can attain it. The external factor must disappear ere the Incarnate can enter into His glory.” Thus only after the resurrection could the Spirit of Christ – or Christ as Spirit – be shed forth as a widespread, actual experience (pp. 375-376).

We are sorry that the Bible Answer Man feels compelled by his erroneous theology to preach an absent Christ. But praise God, Christ is not absent! When the Lord spoke to the disciples about the coming of the Spirit, He did not mean that the Spirit was coming to represent Him. He said the Spirit “will be in you” (John 14:17), and “I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you” (v. 18). It is clear from these two verses that the coming of the Spirit is the coming of the Lord Himself. Then when we read verse 23, the Lord said, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him, and make Our abode with him.”

The One is Three and the Three are One

Our God is uniquely one, and in His Divine being our God is also triune. If you have one, you have all three. If you have the Son, you also have the Father. This is why 1 John 2:23 says, “Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also” (NASV). This is equally true of the Spirit. When one examines Romans 8:9-11, he discovers that the terms “the Spirit of God,” “the Spirit of Christ,” and “Christ” are all equivalent terms. If you have the Spirit of God, you have the Spirit of Christ, and if you have the Spirit of Christ, you have Christ. It is equally true that if you have the Son, you have the Father, and if you have the Spirit, you have the Son. These are not three Gods. They are one God who is triune in His being and existence. Today the Lord Jesus Christ is on the throne of the universe (Rom. 8:34), with a body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39). But He is also in us (2 Cor. 13:5) as the life-giving Spirit (1 Cor. 15:45). He is the Son, but He is also called the Father (Isa. 9:6). He has a body of flesh and bones, but He is also the Spirit (2 Cor. 3:17). In Matthew 10:20 we are told “the Spirit of your Father is the One speaking in you” (Gk.), but in 2 Corinthians 13:3 we read that “Christ [is] speaking in me.” In John 14:26 we are told that the Spirit who has come to dwell in us “shall teach [us] all things,” but in Ephesians 4:21 we are told “that ye have heard him [Christ], and have been taught by him [Christ].” No human mind can reconcile all these diverse statements. Those who try to reconcile them get themselves into the heresy of tritheism, as the Bible Answer Man has done. We prefer to leave them as a mystery. Our God is uniquely one and He is also triune. He is triune not only in His manifestation, but also in His very being. Doctrinal statements concerning Him tend to emphasize one side and neglect the other.

Conclusion

Mackintosh aptly summarizes the whole matter at the end of his book on the Person of Jesus Christ:

It is in the unity of God as known in Christ that our minds come finally to rest. The triune life is apprehended by us for the sake of its redemptive expression, not for the internal analysis of its content. The problem can never be one of ontology mixed with arithmetic. Throughout, our aim is bent on history and its meaning, as we strive to apprehend the one God in His saving manifestation. To this point of view faith is constant. From this point the doctrine must set out only to circle round at last to its fruitful origin. God as Holy Love we name the Father; this same eternal God, as making the sacrifice of love and appearing in one finite Spirit for our redemption, we name the Son; God filling as new life the hearts to which His Son has become a revelation, we name the Spirit. In this confession we resume the best it has been given us to know of the eternal God our Saviour.

This is the second of a series of five articles.

The Believers have the Divine Nature

The material on this page was written in the 1970s to respond to the criticisms of Walter Martin, founder of the Christian Research Institute (CRI) and the original “Bible Answer Man.” CRI has since withdrawn those criticisms and reversed its earlier conclusions (see “A Brief History of the Relationship between the Local Churches and the Christian Research Institute”). The text of this article is published here for the historical record, for the important points of truth it addresses, and because CRI’s criticisms, although withdrawn, are still repeated by others.

From: Answers to the Bible Answer Man – Appendix

December 24

A Winding Path

Since the Bible Answer Man declared open war on Witness Lee and the local churches at Melodyland October 2, 1977, I have followed his public utterances with a great deal of interest. I have found especially fascinating the winding path through the Bible down which he leads his radio audience every Saturday night.

A verse which he delights to quote on the radio is 2 Timothy 2:15:

Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

The verse is more accurately rendered by Alfred Marshall in his Interlinear Greek-English New Testament:

Be eager to present thyself approved to God, a workman unashamed, cutting straight [or, in a straight line] the word of truth.

For a number of weeks I have watched the Bible Answer Man cut, not a straight line, but a crooked one in “the word of truth.” Numerous examples of cutting a crooked course in the Bible have been exposed in previous articles in this paper. We have shown previously how the Bible Answer Man cuts a crooked path in Isaiah 9:6, trying to prove that the eternal Father in that verse is not the eternal Father of the Godhead. We have also pointed out the crooked way he has dealt with John 1:1 by translating the second instance of “God” as “Deity” to avoid saying that the Word was “the God with whom He was.” We have also shown the devious way he has dealt with 2 Corinthians 3:17 and with I Corinthians 15:45. In this article we come to another passage in the Word of God where the Bible Answer Man refuses to cut a straight line. It is 2 Peter 1:3-4:

Seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and virtue, through which (things) He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, in order that by them you might become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust (NASV).

The part of this passage to which the Bible Answer Man objects is the phrase “partakers of the divine nature.” On a recent radio broadcast he preferred to translate the word “nature” as “attributes,” making the passage read “partakers of the divine attributes.”

Five Questions

The Greek word in question is phusis. Concerning the Bible Answer Man’s preference for translating phusis as “attribute” rather than “nature,” we must ask several questions:

Let us answer these questions one at a time.

(1) The Meaning

In his Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words W.E. Vine says:

PHUSIS, from phuo, to bring forth, produce, signifies the nature (i.e., the natural powers or constitution) of a person or thing,…”kind.”

Vine gives two references from the New Testament as examples of the way he has defined the word. They are Ephesians 2:3, and 2 Peter 1:4. Ephesians 2:3 says that before we were regenerated we “were by nature the children of wrath.” This verse indicates that before we were saved we had a certain kind of nature which could be described as the nature of the children of wrath. It was not only that we had the attributes or characteristics of unsaved people; it was that we had the very nature itself of the unsaved. This is in contrast to 2 Peter 1:4 which makes it clear that since we have been born again (1 Peter 1:23) we have the very nature of God Himself – what Peter calls the “divine nature.”

In the Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, Vol. IX, edited by Gerhard Kittel, the author states: “The expression ‘partakers of the divine nature’ seems to suggest [a] non-eschatological understanding of redemption…” He goes on to explain what he means by saying that the phrase indicates not a future expectation of partaking of the divine nature, but a “present participation in the divine nature…”

(2) The Translation

In answer to the question whether the Greek word phusis is translated “attribute” in any reliable translation of the Bible, I can say that in no translation of the Bible I know of is the word translated that way. In all of the following translations of the Bible the Greek word phusis in 2 Peter 1:4 is translated by the English word nature: Marshall’s Interlinear Greek-English New Testament, The American Standard Version 1901, The New American Standard Bible, J.N. Darby’s New Translation, Wuest’s New Testament, The Amplified Bible, and even Le Nouveau Testament by Louis Segond. In the French version the phrase reads “participants de la nature divine” (participants of the divine nature).

(3) The Commentators

Concerning what two leading commentators and Greek scholars say about this word: A.T. Robertson, universally recognized as probably the top Greek scholar of this century, says regarding the phrase “divine nature” that “Peter is referring to the new birth as [in] 1 Peter 1:23.” Kenneth S. Wuest, a popular commentator on the New Testament, says:

The saints have become partakers of, sharers in the divine nature. Peter is here referring to regeneration as in 1 Peter 1:23. This divine nature implanted in the inner being of the believing sinner, becomes the source of his new life and actions. By its energy in giving him both the desire and the power to do God’s will, he has escaped the corruption that is in the world.

Both Robertson and Wuest point out that the divine nature of God was installed in the believer at the time of regeneration. The believer is born of “incorruptible seed” according to 1 Peter 1:23. This seed is the divine Word itself. Hebrews 4:12 calls this word “living and active.”

It is a self-evident principle that everything is born after its kind (Gen. 1:24-25); this point needs no argument. The newborn calf has the nature of its father and mother. The calf not only has the cow attributes; it has the cow nature.

According to John 1:13 believers in Christ were “born…of God.” John 3:6 says they were born of the Spirit and 1 Peter 1:23 says they were born again of the living Word. Surely this must mean that the believer has the divine nature. How could the believer in Christ be born of the divine Spirit, the divine Word, and the divine Father Himself, and yet not have the divine nature? The very thought itself is preposterous.

In 1 Peter 2:2 he speaks of “newborn babes.” This is the reference to the ones born again in chapter one, verse twenty-three. As painfully elementary as it seems, I would ask: Who is their father? Surely their father is the divine Father of the Godhead. Then I would ask further: Whose nature do they bear? Every newborn babe, of whatever species, has the nature of its kind. If the babe is a dog, it has a dog nature. If the babe is a human, it has a human nature. And if the babe is a child of God, it has the divine nature. This is why Peter says in 1 Peter 2:2 that these “newborn babes” [divine children] need the divine food [pure milk of the Word] to grow.

(4) The Inconsistency

Would the Bible Answer Man be willing to be consistent in his translation of phusis as attribute, or is his translation of 2 Peter 1:4 a translation of convenience to avoid admitting the real meaning of the verse? Were he to be consistent in changing the word nature to attribute, the following verses would read this way: Romans 1:26 would say, “That which is against attribute“; Romans 2:14 would say, “Do by attribute the things contained in the law”; 1 Corinthians 11:14 would read, “Doth not even attribute itself teach you”; and Galatians 2:15 would read, “We who are Jews by attribute.” I doubt if the Bible Answer Man would translate any of these verses that way. In every case it is clear that the word phusis means nature and 2 Peter 1:4 is no exception.

(5) Attributes are in the Nature

Finally we would ask the Bible Answer Man: Is it possible to have divine attributes without having the divine nature? In fact is it possible to have the attributes of any kind of life without having the very nature of that life itself? The word phusis is found twice in James 3:7, referring first to the lower animals and then to man himself: “For every nature of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed by the nature of man” (Gk.). As indicated in this verse, there are two kinds of natures and also two categories of attributes. No doubt man has certain attributes or characteristics, and the birds have other attributes or characteristics. The bird nature and the bird attributes go together. It is foolish to suggest that a creature could have the attributes of the bird without having the nature of the bird. It is also foolish to imagine that a human could have the attributes of a man without having the nature of man. In like manner, it is equally foolish to suppose, as the Bible Answer Man teaches, that one can have the divine attributes without having the divine nature. How anyone who purports to be an expert on the Bible could think so is a mystery.

Here we seem to be confronted with an excessive ignorance. We are assured by the Bible Answer Man that regenerated children of God do not have the divine nature, but do have the divine attributes. The believer has, he says, the attributes of God in some measure but not the nature of God. This is not only an affront to the clear teaching of the Holy Word; it is an affront to logic itself. The following quotation from J. N. Darby puts the matter in proper perspective:

The very essence of practical Christianity is our partaking of the divine nature, and having God’s moral attributes conferred on us, or implanted with His nature in us…. But an attribute being imputed to us is simple nonsense, being a contradiction in terms; because an attribute is something which belongs to, or is in, the being spoken of, so as to be a part of himself …The righteousness of God is an attribute of His nature (Collected Writings, Vol. X, pp. 53-54).

That the Christian may have in some measure the attributes of God but not the divine nature is shown by Darby to be fallacious on the face of it, for it is not possible to have an attribute that is in God, imputed to us abstractly. Whatever is in God is in His nature, and His nature is what we have received by virtue of the new birth.

Destined for the Throne

In 1975 a book appeared on the market, published by Christian Literature Crusade ( a very respected publisher of Christian books), with a forward by Billy Graham. An official of the Billy Graham Association said the book “unmistakably bears the imprimatur of the Holy Spirit of God.” The book is Destined for the Throne by Paul E. Billheimer. On his radio program of December 17 a caller read to the Bible Answer Man a portion of this book. When the Answer Man heard it, he said: “That is blasphemy.” When told that it has a forward by Billy Graham, he said: “I can’t believe it.” Then the caller pointed out that it is not only published by Christian Literature Crusade; he had also purchased it at Melodyland Bookstore. All of this is a great exposure of how short-sighted the Bible Answer Man is. It seems that he recognizes only himself as the standard of orthodoxy. To those uninitiated in what the Bible actually says, Billheimer no doubt uses some startling language. He even uses language which is much stronger than we in the local churches use. He points out that 1 John 3:1-2 refers to God’s children as “[generic] sons of God”; that in Hebrews 2:11 Christ and His brethren “are all of one [origin]”; that Matthew 12:48-50 indicates that He and His disciples were all “begotten by the same Father”; and that John 17:21-23 says, “I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one.”

He has a paragraph entitled “The Redeemed an ‘Extension’ of the Godhead.” This is the paragraph that was read to the Bible Answer Man:

We tread softly here. With bated breath we read I Corinthians 6:17: “He that is joined to the Lord is one spirit.” This union goes beyond a mere formal, functional, or idealistic harmony or rapport. It is an organic unity, an “organic relationship of personalities” (Sauer). Through the new birth we become bona fide members of the original cosmic family (Eph. 3:15), actual generated sons of God (1 John 3:2), “partakers of the divine nature” (2 Peter 1:4), begotten by Him, impregnated with His “genes,” and called the seed or “sperma” of God (1 John 5:1, 18 and 1 Peter 1:3, 23), and bearing His heredity. Thus, through the new birth – and I speak reverently – we become the “next of kin” to the Trinity, a kind of “extension” of the Godhead (p. 35).

When a person believes in Jesus Christ as Savior, he is “born again” (John 3:3), “born of God” (John 1:13), “born of the Spirit” (John 3:6), Christ comes to live in him (2 Cor. 13:5; Gal. 2:20; Col. 1:27), he receives the very life of God into his being (Col. 3:4), and he receives the nature of God Himself (2 Pet. 1:4). Anyone who considers that this is either hyperbole, delusion of grandeur, or blasphemy must remember that these are the words of divine inspiration and, unless the Word of God itself is meaningless, are no exaggeration. Such thoughts may stun the natural mind, and we may be tempted to qualify them by explaining them away or treating them as figures of speech. Unbelief often takes this way to emasculate the Word of God. But if we believe that the Bible is the Word of God and we take it literally, except in those cases where it is clearly indicated that the language is symbolic, then what it says must be allowed to stand exactly as it is. Only in this way can we “cut a straight line in the word of truth.”

A Divine Warning

To translate according to our fancy, as the Bible Answer Man does, to make the Bible fit the convenience of our preconceived theology is to commit the sin warned in Deuteronomy 4:2:

You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it.

The Bible Answer Man has broken both halves of the admonition in Deuteronomy 4:2. By translating the Greek word phusis as “attribute” instead of “nature,” as almost all Bible commentators agree it should be translated, not only does he add a word to the text which does not belong there, but by doing so he also takes away from the meaning of the word. Thus it can be seen that he has both added to the word and taken away from it. But we in the local churches prefer to take “God’s eternal vocabulary” just as it stands, without qualification or adjustment. We fully believe the divine word when it teaches that God has elevated redeemed humanity to such a sublime position.

Conclusion

Without qualification we are able to say with Peter that we, the redeemed, have become “partakers of the divine nature” (2 Peter 1:4).

This is the first of a series of five articles.

The Educational Myth of the Bible Answer Man

The material on this page was written in the 1970s to respond to the criticisms of Walter Martin, founder of the Christian Research Institute (CRI) and the original “Bible Answer Man.” CRI has since withdrawn those criticisms and reversed its earlier conclusions (see “A Brief History of the Relationship between the Local Churches and the Christian Research Institute”). The text of this article is published here for the historical record, for the important points of truth it addresses, and because CRI’s criticisms, although withdrawn, are still repeated by others.

From: Answers to the Bible Answer Man – Appendix

December 24

In recent weeks the Bible Answer Man has repeatedly criticized Witness Lee and berated the local churches for what he considers a lack of theological education. He has implied to the public that this alleged lack of education automatically disqualifies Witness Lee from making reliable theological judgments, and he attempts to negate the local churches’ manifest ability to help people know Christ and practice the church life. Simultaneously, he magnifies his own education and inflates himself to be the Bible Answer Man, who alone has the proper understanding of the Scripture, and stands ready to pass judgment on all who differ from him, whether it be Donald G. Barnhouse, Alexander Hyslop, Paul Billheimer, or Billy Graham. This twentieth century popery has made a mockery of the truth and a god out of knowledge. The educational myth that has been perpetrated upon the public must be exposed.

After the Bible Answer Man attacked Witness Lee and the local churches at Melodyland, the local churches responded to his charges with articles written by no less than five men with theological degrees. The Bible Answer Man bombastically criticized these five men as not qualifying to be a theological voice, while he neglected to tell the public the pitiful truth concerning the theological education of himself and his staff. While claiming to be the theological Rock of Gibraltar, he doesn’t even have a Master’s degree in theology. Although he did attend a seminary, his Master’s degree is from a secular school, New York University. Even more blown out of proportion is his much lauded doctoral degree that actually comes from a non-accredited school in Santa Ana. Furthermore, his title of Professor comes from his tenure at a school that is also not accredited in the eyes of the academic world. It is a pitiful thing that these accomplishments can cause a man to be so proud, professing himself to be the scholar he is not.

Even more pitiful is the theological education of his staff. Of the two persons who have done the majority of his research on the local churches, neither one has earned any theological degree. In fact, one has a four-year degree in comparative literature, and the other has no four-year degree at all! It is really a joke that these three would criticize as inadequate five men with theological degrees!

The Bible Answer Man asked untrained and unqualified people to do his research for him, and the result was what might be expected. The research is shallow in understanding, erroneous in presentation, and is as unscholarly as it is devoid of Christian conscience. It is this pitiful research that has formed the basis of the Bible Answer Man’s attacks. It is no wonder that he refuses to discuss in detail any of his charges with those in the local churches.

On the other hand, Witness Lee and the local churches have responded week after week in the paper with thorough, scholarly, and scriptural articles, written by more than a dozen different men, to defend the truth in the eyes of the public. How could “uneducated” men produce such a volume of clear, logical, and scriptural writing? Nearly everything that has been written has had its source in the light from the Scripture as opened by Witness Lee’s ministry. How could a “theologically uneducated” man know the Bible so well and expound it so thoroughly? Many of us were in scriptural impotence for years in various denominations, some even the students of the Bible Answer Man. Now through the ministry of Witness Lee we have been made strong in the Word, able to write articles that the Bible Answer Man cannot answer. From this “theologically uneducated” man we received what we never got from all the so-called educated men of the Christian world. Furthermore, Watchman Nee’s books have greatly helped Christians throughout the world; yet he never attended any theological school nor received any theological degree. The spirit that condemns Witness Lee and the local churches for being uneducated is the same one that condemned the Lord for being a carpenter’s son and the disciples for being unlearned fishermen. It is the spirit that boasts in its dubious degrees and titles, as the Pharisees did, but rises in rage when someone in need has been healed outside of their jurisdiction. In the local churches we do not care for titles, which exalt position. We only care for holding the reality in love, for the building up of the body of Christ.

Let the Bible Answer Man produce one carefully written article to refute what has been written by the local churches. Let him show the public some men who are his fruit that can defend the faith and know the Word. Let the Bible Answer Man explain why he refuses to talk with the people from the local churches. Let him explain why he cuts people off on the air and keeps on talking to them as if they were still there, even saying, “Thank you for calling,” and “God bless you,” to them after he has long ago cut them off. This is deceit. To whom is he saying good-by? Who is he blessing? Last Saturday night the Bible Answer Man hung up on me three times. If he has the truth, why does he need this kind of tactics? Let him tell why he said that he had explained Romans 8:9-11 to the local church people when in fact he had not. Let him explain why he denied accusing the local churches of changing the text of the Bible when the tape from Melodyland shows exactly the opposite. Let him explain why he gave an audience in the Fresno area the impression that he had talked with Witness Lee for three and a half hours on theology when he knows that he has never talked to Witness Lee on theology. Is this Christian? Is this scholarship? Is this what theological education does for a man?

Is it education that teaches you to mock others, to use wit and sarcasm to tongue-lash people that ask you questions that you cannot answer? Is it education that teaches you to attack other people with impunity and, when they answer back, to accuse them of not having Christian love? Is it education that teaches you to reason that to use radio time to attack fellow Christians is the Lord’s work, but to buy newspaper space to answer is wasting the Lord’s money? The education that produces such results is to be feared. Certainly, even as Eve suffered from eating the tree of knowledge, so also many are suffering to this day. Paul warned us about the knowledge that puffs people up and told us that there is a learning that doesn’t bring people to the knowledge of the truth. Before us today we have a living warning that this very thing is still happening.